Hi guys, Thanks guys for all your suggestions and advices. I think I'll go for this one: http://www.vellemanusa.com/us/enu/product/view/?id=522851
In order to surface solder, I'd need a flux pen, from what I could read/see. Do I need type RA (or RMA) ? Like this one: http://www.amazon.co.uk/CircuitWorksÂ<http://www.amazon.co.uk/CircuitWorks%C3%82>®-Flux-Dispensing-Pen/dp/B003EDQ0Q8/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1283424287&sr=8-1-fkmr1 ? Or type BC or something like that ? Thanks Seb 2010/9/2 vasile surducan <[email protected]> > > > On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 2:39 AM, Serdar K. <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Sebastien, >> >> I used 137ESD for a short time, and I can tell that the product you get is >> worth 99USD , because you see the exact temperature on the tip and the >> temperature you have set, with help of a switch, and i think it has a stable >> temperature within 1-2 degrees error band. That is needed for temperature >> control. > > > > > >> If the control circuit is not digital and contains no measurement, then >> the thermostat is mechanic or at least a wide temperature band & hysteresis >> one. > > > > The statement above is not quite true. For example the U217 is a zero cross > IC control which keep the iron tip temperature at +/-2C. > http://pdf1.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/view/26117/TEMIC/U217.html > Has no digital control, nor any any display measurement, but need an > inexpensive temperature sensor like KTY84. > Analog solutions are as good as digital sometimes... > :) > > Vasile > > > >> Also the ceramic heater heats and cools fast, i can say. >> >> The stand and general material quality is also good. >> >> The kind of device for 99USD is the best you can get for that price if you >> won't pay more hundreds and get a more professional and complicated hot air >> SMD (de)soldering station. The tip alternatives are also avaliable for 137 >> ESD. If you can afford it, i can say you can use it a long time with tip >> changes and buying tips which you can need in time. But if you want a >> cheaper one, of course the $20 one is not bad. It has also a stand and tip >> simple temperature control, i assume. >> >> Of course, all are my thoughts, and there is not only one right choice on >> this matter. >> >> Greetings, >> Serdar >> >> 2010/8/30 Sebastien Lelong <[email protected]> >> >> Hi Serdar, Joep, >>> >>> Thanks for advices, though 99USD or the like for a soldering iron looks >>> expensive... Does it really worth it ? Vasile's suggestion is something >>> closed to 20$, variable temp though no digital thermostat. I've also been >>> suggested this one: >>> http://www.selectronic.fr/article.asp?article_ref_entier=10.1806-9999#, >>> cheap too. >>> >>> What can make such differences in prices ? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Seb >>> >>> 2010/8/27 Serdar K. <[email protected]> >>> >>>> I can tell you that a digital thermostat is cool, and the station type >>>> work can do more for you (with different tips) >>>> >>>> http://www.howardelectronics.com/Xytronic/137ESD.html >>>> and the new version >>>> http://www.howardelectronics.com/Xytronic/LF1600.html >>>> >>>> If you can afford giving 99USD, and can find 137ESD, i guess you can use >>>> it long time if you be careful.. >>>> The resistance is ceramic, so you shouldn't drop the iron for its good. >>>> >>>> Temperature control is a must for SMD work. >>>> >>>> There are other ways to do better and easier ( i still couldn't try to >>>> do it, but i have bought the liquid solder from dealextreme). You should >>>> take some time examining the sites deeply : >>>> >>>> http://www.seattlerobotics.org/encoder/200006/oven_art.htm >>>> >>>> http://www.homanndesigns.com/SMDToasterOvenProject.html >>>> http://www.homanndesigns.com/oven.pdf >>>> >>>> http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/tutorial_info.php?tutorials_id=59&page= >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.instructables.com/id/Home-reflow-SMD-soldering/ >>>> You should go through steps clicking "next". It is a nice resource: >>>> >>>> http://www.instructables.com/id/Extreme-Surface-Mount-Soldering/step2/The-Hot-Plate-Soldering-System/ >>>> >>>> 2010/8/27 funlw65 <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> Mine is 25Watt and is good for the little jobs I do... >>>>> All I need is a bunch of "sharp" tips to be able to solder small >>>>> vias... >>>>> A powerful soldering iron ca burn fast your thin tips if you don't >>>>> have a soldering station - I think... I don't have that. >>>>> Also, it can burn fast all the flux before making the joint. >>>>> Too much flux and a powerful soldering iron can float your traces in >>>>> no time. You need to be very skilled to work with it. >>>>> >>>>> Better a super-magnifying glass (monocle or with "leg" support), a >>>>> small solder iron and 0.4, 0.5 mm diameter solder wire. This is what >>>>> it works for me. >>>>> >>>>> Vasi(funlw65) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 27, 4:48 pm, Sebastien Lelong <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > I don't know, maybe surface solder requires hight temp. ? >>>>> > >>>>> > 2010/8/27 mattschinkel <[email protected]> >>>>> > >>>>> > > Is variable temperature really important? >>>>> > >>>>> > > Matt. >>>>> > >>>>> > > -- >>>>> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups >>>>> > > "jallib" group. >>>>> > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> > > [email protected]<jallib%[email protected]> >>>>> <jallib%[email protected]<jallib%[email protected]> >>>>> > >>>>> > > . >>>>> > > For more options, visit this group at >>>>> > >http://groups.google.com/group/jallib?hl=en. >>>>> > >>>>> > -- >>>>> > Sébastien Lelonghttp://www.sirloon.nethttp://sirbot.org >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "jallib" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]<jallib%[email protected]> >>>>> . >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/jallib?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> *Serdar KIZILTOPRAK >>>> Intelligence **Technology Systems >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://www.i-t-sys.com >>>> +90(216) 518 15 00* >>>> ** >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "jallib" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]<jallib%[email protected]> >>>> . >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/jallib?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sébastien Lelong >>> http://www.sirloon.net >>> http://sirbot.org >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "jallib" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]<jallib%[email protected]> >>> . >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/jallib?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> *Serdar KIZILTOPRAK >> Intelligence **Technology Systems >> [email protected] >> http://www.i-t-sys.com >> +90(216) 518 15 00* >> ** >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "jallib" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<jallib%[email protected]> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/jallib?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "jallib" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<jallib%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/jallib?hl=en. > -- Sébastien Lelong http://www.sirloon.net http://sirbot.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "jallib" group. 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