Hi guys,

Thanks guys for all your suggestions and advices. I think I'll go for this
one: http://www.vellemanusa.com/us/enu/product/view/?id=522851

In order to surface solder, I'd need a flux pen, from what I could read/see.
Do I need type RA (or RMA) ? Like this one:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/CircuitWorksÂ<http://www.amazon.co.uk/CircuitWorks%C3%82>®-Flux-Dispensing-Pen/dp/B003EDQ0Q8/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1283424287&sr=8-1-fkmr1
? Or type BC or something like that ?



Thanks
Seb

2010/9/2 vasile surducan <[email protected]>

>
>
> On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 2:39 AM, Serdar K. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Sebastien,
>>
>> I used 137ESD for a short time, and I can tell that the product you get is
>> worth 99USD , because you see the exact temperature on the tip and the
>> temperature you have set, with help of a switch, and i think it has a stable
>> temperature within 1-2 degrees error band. That is needed for temperature
>> control.
>
>
>
>
>
>> If the control circuit is not digital and contains no measurement, then
>> the thermostat is mechanic or at least a wide temperature band & hysteresis
>> one.
>
>
>
> The statement above is not quite true. For example the U217 is a zero cross
> IC control which keep the iron tip temperature at +/-2C.
> http://pdf1.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/view/26117/TEMIC/U217.html
> Has no digital control, nor any any display measurement, but need an
> inexpensive temperature sensor like KTY84.
> Analog solutions are as good as digital sometimes...
> :)
>
> Vasile
>
>
>
>> Also the ceramic heater heats and cools fast, i can say.
>>
>> The stand and general material quality is also good.
>>
>> The kind of device for 99USD is the best you can get for that price if you
>> won't pay more hundreds and get a more professional and complicated hot air
>> SMD (de)soldering station. The tip alternatives are also avaliable for 137
>> ESD. If you can afford it, i can say you can use it a long time with tip
>> changes and buying tips which you can need in time. But if you want a
>> cheaper one, of course the $20 one is not bad. It has also a stand and tip
>> simple temperature control, i assume.
>>
>> Of course, all are my thoughts, and there is not only one right choice on
>> this matter.
>>
>> Greetings,
>> Serdar
>>
>> 2010/8/30 Sebastien Lelong <[email protected]>
>>
>> Hi Serdar, Joep,
>>>
>>> Thanks for advices, though 99USD or the like for a soldering iron looks
>>> expensive... Does it really worth it ? Vasile's suggestion is something
>>> closed to 20$, variable temp though no digital thermostat. I've also been
>>> suggested this one:
>>> http://www.selectronic.fr/article.asp?article_ref_entier=10.1806-9999#,
>>> cheap too.
>>>
>>> What can make such differences in prices ?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Seb
>>>
>>> 2010/8/27 Serdar K. <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>>  I can tell you that a digital thermostat is cool, and the station type
>>>> work can do more for you (with different tips)
>>>>
>>>> http://www.howardelectronics.com/Xytronic/137ESD.html
>>>> and the new version
>>>> http://www.howardelectronics.com/Xytronic/LF1600.html
>>>>
>>>> If you can afford giving 99USD, and can find 137ESD, i guess you can use
>>>> it long time if you be careful..
>>>> The resistance is ceramic, so you shouldn't drop the iron for its good.
>>>>
>>>> Temperature control is a must for SMD work.
>>>>
>>>> There are other ways to do better and easier ( i still couldn't try to
>>>> do it, but i have bought the liquid solder from dealextreme). You should
>>>> take some time examining the sites deeply :
>>>>
>>>> http://www.seattlerobotics.org/encoder/200006/oven_art.htm
>>>>
>>>> http://www.homanndesigns.com/SMDToasterOvenProject.html
>>>> http://www.homanndesigns.com/oven.pdf
>>>>
>>>> http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/tutorial_info.php?tutorials_id=59&page=
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.instructables.com/id/Home-reflow-SMD-soldering/
>>>> You should go through steps clicking "next". It is a nice resource:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.instructables.com/id/Extreme-Surface-Mount-Soldering/step2/The-Hot-Plate-Soldering-System/
>>>>
>>>> 2010/8/27 funlw65 <[email protected]>
>>>>
>>>> Mine is 25Watt and is good for the little jobs I do...
>>>>> All I need is a bunch of "sharp" tips to be able to solder small
>>>>> vias...
>>>>> A powerful soldering iron ca burn fast your thin tips if you don't
>>>>> have a soldering station - I think... I don't have that.
>>>>> Also, it can burn fast all the flux before making the joint.
>>>>> Too much flux and a powerful soldering iron can float your traces in
>>>>> no time. You need to be very skilled to work with it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Better a super-magnifying glass (monocle or with "leg" support), a
>>>>> small solder iron and 0.4, 0.5 mm diameter solder wire. This is what
>>>>> it works for me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Vasi(funlw65)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 27, 4:48 pm, Sebastien Lelong <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > I don't know, maybe surface solder requires hight temp. ?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 2010/8/27 mattschinkel <[email protected]>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > Is variable temperature really important?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > Matt.
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