Hi,

As many others I'm scared by the smd so only 1206 size components
used. Those through hole components helped a little in routing (which
was made auto with some manual routing at the end so, not sure...). I
want to keep the 22pF capacitors as through hole (in that area are
many "veins") and I can try to use for the remaining, SMD variants.
Thank you for the tips.

On Oct 30, 5:17 pm, vasile surducan <[email protected]> wrote:
> It looks good (haven't patience to look closer). However why did you mix
> through hole with smd? (except the connectors, use only smd onboard) The
> lenght can be reduced with at least 10-15mm if miniaturization is your need.
> All vias are below the microcontroller, some people does not recommend such
> tehnique, however I see no problem only if this board is factory
> manufactured. Maybe the board has a good purpose, which I can't see it
> because I have never used solderless breadboards and have no intention to
> use from now.
>
> Using a breadboard:
> - is not safe, has poor contacts, a lot of signal interferences, the final
> stuff breadboarded can work different than the prototype (if the breadboard
> user  will manufacture a prototype after playing with wires) and that is a
> good way of wasting time understanding if the bug is a software or a
> hardware one
> - the user is missing the key of playing hardware: learning soldering
> tehniques, learning PCB design techniques, understanding the bitter relation
> between the initial ideea and the final product
>
> Vasile
>
> On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 6:17 AM, vasi vasi <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi guys,
>
> > I want to present you the smallest member of Jaluino, Jaluino CELL as
> > it was named by Sebastien. Look at it as a prototype and a proposal.
> > The board is designed to be used on a breadboard and for rapid
> > prototyping.
>
> > This version use the USB bootloader of Albert and use the red LED as
> > boot mode indicator. Right now the red LED is connected at RA4 pin but
> > I'm open to suggestions. Unfortunately, the space is very small and I
> > was forced to remove the jumper which allowed disconnection of the
> > LED. You can do that removing the limiting resistor (but is nice to
> > have a boot mode indicator). Also not all components fits on the top.
> > One diode and three resistors (all smd) are soldered on the bottom.
> > The green LED is for power indicator and the blue jumper is for power
> > select (USB or external). The external power must be 5V regulated.
> > Why no regulator on board? To be able to address any project,
> > with any consumption requirements.
>
> > The board don't have an ICSP connector (no more space) but having
> > external pins, the microcontroller can be easily programmed if you
> > insert the board on a breadboard (without the fear of bending pins).
>
> > Well, the initial version was a lot bigger but Sebastien suggested that
> > if can be of maximum 5cm long it can benefit from the cheapest
> > Seeedstudio service and I considered it a good advice..
>
> >  I hope that this board will be useful for someone.
>
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