Guys,

Look here, is cheaper than Arduino MEGA
http://www.digilentinc.com/Products/Detail.cfm?NavPath=2,719,895&Prod=CHIPKIT-MAX32
and as I understand, on May 21 will be available for download a
modified version of Arduino IDE for all three major operating systems.

Matt, maybe is wise to wait a little...

On May 18, 7:32 am, mattschinkel <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks William.
>
> So, I was looking into Antlr. It seems simple (or will be when I get a
> bit of experience with it).
>
> I see Antlr outputs a .c file (a runable program). Is that what JAT
> is, just an output from Antlr? Did you compile the .c file into
> jalparser.exe?
>
> Does modifying JAT only require knowledge of Antlr?
>
> Of course I need to know C so I can verify the final output.
>
> Matt.
>
> On May 17, 10:55 pm, William <[email protected]> wrote:
>
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>
>
> > Greetings Matt,
>
> > Summary up front -- I'd recommend a 'standard' Arduino, and spend at
> > least 3 months learning Arduino and C.  Then switch to the PIC32
> > Arduino if you like (by then it will either be working well or
> > abandonded. And by then then you may be comfortable enough to work on
> > JAT to fix bugs or add features that are missing.
>
> > Now the more detailed comments about JAT and cross-compilers, etc...
>
> > In my experience, Codesourcery is an excellent choice for gnu 'gcc'
> > cross-compilers these days.  While they do indeed offer commercial
> > support, the compiler is indeed free software and the source is
> > available although I've never needed it.  I've used their 'lite' cross
> > toolchains on several different projects over the years and have been
> > well pleased.  The only thing that is typically missing from the
> > 'lite' tools is the ability to burn flash directly from their nice
> > debugger -- of course you can work around that with other tools, it
> > just isn't quite as convenient but that is what I do here.
>
> > It also looks like the PIC32 will be a winner -- since it is based on
> > MIPS instruction set, which has been around in the Unix world for
> > many, many years and is used in lots of embedded widgets, routers and
> > such.  The GNU GCC for MIPS has been around a long time also.
>
> > You asked my advice on learning C -- well, until about a year ago, I
> > would say just sit down in front of any Linux system or even a virtual
> > machine running Linux and grab a copy of the classic book on C
> > programming by K&R, 2nd Ed.   But having used the Arduino for the past
> > year or so, I'd say spend $30 on Arduino and use online examples or
> > buy any of the Arduino books.  Nothing is hidden from you by using
> > Arduino IDE -- the full source is online.  In fact, the proper GNU GCC
> > cross toolchain will be installed for you and available for you to use
> > directly, if you don't want to use the IDE.  Personally I use the
> > Arduino IDE, even though I rarely use IDEs for anything else.
>
> > About JAT -- like Joep says, it is at the stage where it needs more
> > work, but I'm not likely to have much time for such an undertaking any
> > time soon.
>
> > William

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