I love your ingenuity. Reading your post made my evening. Keep up the good 
work :-) .

On Thursday, July 24, 2014 8:03:34 AM UTC-5, Pavel Milanes Costa wrote:
>
> Hi, 
>
> First Thanks to all for the replies, I - as always - learn a lot with 
> your answers. 
>
> I'm on the super cheap project here, no just "cheap" for being cheap, 
> but as for no pieces !!! 
>
> I'm in Cuba island, no ebay, no radioshack, etc... just a big junkbox >:-) 
>
> I rescued a PIC16F630 from a auto alarm, it has 14 pins, 12 to use and 
> 11 to be outputs + 1 pin input only, I rescued a LCD from an old VCR for 
> the 7 seg display. 
>
> I settled on the timer0_isr_interval for this time... 
>
> I used the internal 4 Mhz clock of the pic, internal MCLR, and created a 
> routine for multiplexing the display using the tomer0_isr_interval... 
>
> All working good... (at the display stage) if you are doing the math I 
> have 11 pins (7 segments + 4 common anodes for the digits) so the dot 
> was running from an independent and cheap 4069 inverters :-) 
>
> The input only pin is for setting the time... 
>
> I have two options for the clock, that's why I asked the question in the 
> first place... 
>
> After experimenting and calibrating I choose the timer0_isr_interval 
> version, here is why... 
>
> /(The pic has a 5.00 volts as per a LM317T in the power supply... so no 
> voltage variations to affect the clock)/ 
>
> *rtc_timer1 option:* 
>
> I have to user it on timer1, because timer0 has the timer0_isr_interval 
> for multiplexing the display. 
>
> With this option I have only one point to calibrate OSCCAL, I made a 
> routine to modify it and load the adjust in the eeprom of the pic. 
>
> Results of experimentations: 
>
> The step of adjust are to wide apart, my best setting was 
>
> OSCCAL = 20: delay of about 3 minutes in 24 hours 
> OSCCAL = 21: increase of about 5 minutes in 24 hours 
>
> Not so good, reading the pic datasheet, I se that moving the VCC I can 
> tuner the INT_OSC.. but na... 
>
> *timer0_isr_interval option:* 
>
> It's there already for the 7 segment multiplexing... 
>
> The adjust was incrementing/decrementing the ticks on the slot... the 
> previous routine for modify the OSCCAL was modified to tune the ticks 
> count on the particular slot on the isr_interval 
>
> Results of experimentations: very good !!!! 
>
> In theory with 1khz ticks I have to load the slot with 1000 for 1 
> second, but with an adjust of 1301 I have under 5 seconds increase per 
> 24 hours... 
>
> For the record, with 1300 I have a delay of about 30 seconds... 
>
> So I stick to this variant... this is a good project for learning about 
> timer0_isr_interval and and rtc_* libraries... 
>
> At the end I have the pic, the display, a bunch of resistors + 
> capacitors, a LM317 and a 4069 inverters, just that to make a neat and 
> homebrew clock... 
>
> I then learn that WWVH? in 70Khz can reach Cuba on the nights, I'm 
> searching info to *try* to make a lib for decoding the WWVH... If I 
> succeed I will contribute it to jallib... 
>
> Thanks to all. 
>
> PS: I any want to peek in the code drop me an email... 
>
>
> El 22/07/14 17:24, Pavel Milanes Costa escribió: 
> > Hi to all... 
> > 
> > I'm building a 7 Segment desk clock as a hobby project, and I ran across 
> > two methods to get the 1 second increments... 
> > 
> > - timer0_isr_interval 
> >      Setting a 1Khz rate and a slot with tick to make one second 
> > 
> > - rtc_isr_tmr0 
> >      A "more accurate solution" over time... 
> > 
> > There is any pros and cons about one method or the other? 
> > 
> > I read that rtc_isr_tmr0 is more accurate over time with jitter on the 
> > seconds count... but, 
> > 
> > This is realy true? any reason to use timer0_isr_interval over this? 
> > 
> > cheers 
> > 
> > Pavel. 
> > 
>

On Thursday, July 24, 2014 8:03:34 AM UTC-5, Pavel Milanes Costa wrote:
>
> Hi, 
>
> First Thanks to all for the replies, I - as always - learn a lot with 
> your answers. 
>
> I'm on the super cheap project here, no just "cheap" for being cheap, 
> but as for no pieces !!! 
>
> I'm in Cuba island, no ebay, no radioshack, etc... just a big junkbox >:-) 
>
> I rescued a PIC16F630 from a auto alarm, it has 14 pins, 12 to use and 
> 11 to be outputs + 1 pin input only, I rescued a LCD from an old VCR for 
> the 7 seg display. 
>
> I settled on the timer0_isr_interval for this time... 
>
> I used the internal 4 Mhz clock of the pic, internal MCLR, and created a 
> routine for multiplexing the display using the tomer0_isr_interval... 
>
> All working good... (at the display stage) if you are doing the math I 
> have 11 pins (7 segments + 4 common anodes for the digits) so the dot 
> was running from an independent and cheap 4069 inverters :-) 
>
> The input only pin is for setting the time... 
>
> I have two options for the clock, that's why I asked the question in the 
> first place... 
>
> After experimenting and calibrating I choose the timer0_isr_interval 
> version, here is why... 
>
> /(The pic has a 5.00 volts as per a LM317T in the power supply... so no 
> voltage variations to affect the clock)/ 
>
> *rtc_timer1 option:* 
>
> I have to user it on timer1, because timer0 has the timer0_isr_interval 
> for multiplexing the display. 
>
> With this option I have only one point to calibrate OSCCAL, I made a 
> routine to modify it and load the adjust in the eeprom of the pic. 
>
> Results of experimentations: 
>
> The step of adjust are to wide apart, my best setting was 
>
> OSCCAL = 20: delay of about 3 minutes in 24 hours 
> OSCCAL = 21: increase of about 5 minutes in 24 hours 
>
> Not so good, reading the pic datasheet, I se that moving the VCC I can 
> tuner the INT_OSC.. but na... 
>
> *timer0_isr_interval option:* 
>
> It's there already for the 7 segment multiplexing... 
>
> The adjust was incrementing/decrementing the ticks on the slot... the 
> previous routine for modify the OSCCAL was modified to tune the ticks 
> count on the particular slot on the isr_interval 
>
> Results of experimentations: very good !!!! 
>
> In theory with 1khz ticks I have to load the slot with 1000 for 1 
> second, but with an adjust of 1301 I have under 5 seconds increase per 
> 24 hours... 
>
> For the record, with 1300 I have a delay of about 30 seconds... 
>
> So I stick to this variant... this is a good project for learning about 
> timer0_isr_interval and and rtc_* libraries... 
>
> At the end I have the pic, the display, a bunch of resistors + 
> capacitors, a LM317 and a 4069 inverters, just that to make a neat and 
> homebrew clock... 
>
> I then learn that WWVH? in 70Khz can reach Cuba on the nights, I'm 
> searching info to *try* to make a lib for decoding the WWVH... If I 
> succeed I will contribute it to jallib... 
>
> Thanks to all. 
>
> PS: I any want to peek in the code drop me an email... 
>
>
> El 22/07/14 17:24, Pavel Milanes Costa escribió: 
> > Hi to all... 
> > 
> > I'm building a 7 Segment desk clock as a hobby project, and I ran across 
> > two methods to get the 1 second increments... 
> > 
> > - timer0_isr_interval 
> >      Setting a 1Khz rate and a slot with tick to make one second 
> > 
> > - rtc_isr_tmr0 
> >      A "more accurate solution" over time... 
> > 
> > There is any pros and cons about one method or the other? 
> > 
> > I read that rtc_isr_tmr0 is more accurate over time with jitter on the 
> > seconds count... but, 
> > 
> > This is realy true? any reason to use timer0_isr_interval over this? 
> > 
> > cheers 
> > 
> > Pavel. 
> > 
>

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