Hello Bob,
I think you didn't understand me, sorry.
All references are in the tools as you indicated.
EXAMPLE:
1. I have done some things in Bert's package where all references to this 
package are in the tools.
2. I close the case and open another Jal package (e.g. the latest version). 
All references are listed there as well.
3. When I then use the OPEN button, I get to see the list of files from 
Bert's package.

Op zondag 18 december 2022 om 09:58:49 UTC+1 schreef [email protected]:

> Hi Hans,
>
> If you install a new bee package then it should carry the same name as 
> your previous Jallib directory. This because JALEdit will always point to 
> the name of that directory and searches for the libs there.
>
> In the tools --> Environment options window of JALEdit you find something 
> like this (directory names will be different on your machine):
>
>
>
> So if you download a bee-package and put it in a name with a different 
> directory, JALEdit will still use the older Jallib version.
>
> This is what I do:
>
>    1. Download the bee-package to the download folder of Windows
>    2. Extract the zip file with the destination directory Jallib
>    3. Delete C:\Jallib
>    4. Move Jallib from the download folder to C:\Jallib
>
> You then always have the most recent libraries and compiler version.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Rob
>
> ------------------------------
> *Van:* [email protected] <[email protected]> namens hans <
> [email protected]>
> *Verzonden:* zondag 18 december 2022 08:46
>
> *Aan:* jallib <[email protected]>
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [jallib] USB_help
>
> Hi Vasile,
>
> Your message has made me think and it brings me to a phenomenon that I 
> have paid little attention to until now.
>
> I'll try to explain.
>
> 1. I have several complete JAL packages on my PC. If a newer version is 
> available I will keep the old one. Including the complete package from 
> Bert's book because I have made a lot of things with it.
>
> 2. When I start something new I create a new folder, put a copy from the 
> sample list in it and only if I change something from the lib list do I put 
> that in there too.
>
> 3. Here's the thing: For example, if I want to view and edit something in 
> an older Jal package and I click the OPEN function, Jaledit shows me the 
> file map I've been working on recently.
>
> 4. If I then go to another package and do the same there, it shows the 
> list of recent files from the other package.
>
> 5. So somewhere there must be a link between all those packages. So it 
> could very well be that jaledit is using the wrong link
>
> 6. I will change my method and put everything in one folder as you 
> indicated.
>
>  
>
> I hope you understand my story.
>
> regards
>
> Hans
>
> Op zondag 18 december 2022 om 07:20:46 UTC+1 schreef vasile:
>
> I never experienced this problem, so I'm useless for LVP/USB interaction.
> What I know for sure is this: once USB works for you, save in a separate 
> folder ALL libraries related to your test program and the compiler, test 
> carefully that compilation works only from that folder and write a note 
> named maybe "warning.jal" describing clearly what was the issue and how you 
> solved it. In this particular way you will never encounter a similar issue 
> using the same compiler revision. 
> Of course you will see other issues...:)
>
> On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 8:59 PM hans <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Another addition Vasile, I also tested with the pickitminus, but the case 
> does not work with or without the LVP.
> I'm now looking for a cure for programming headaches.
> Maybe I'd better go back to the antique things that I've been able to 
> experience so much for years.
> regards
> Hans
>
> Op zaterdag 17 december 2022 om 18:33:20 UTC+1 schreef hans:
>
> Hi Vasile,
> I have now discovered that if I turn off the LVP all examples work. 
> Apparently, activating the lvp causes both the Wisp and Pickit3 to interact 
> with it, causing this problem.
> I'm going to always turn off the LVP from now on (if I don't forget!!)
> Greetings and thanks again for all your responses.
> Hans
>
> Op zaterdag 17 december 2022 om 17:39:22 UTC+1 schreef vasile:
>
> Hmm, let me find an 18F2550 and check.
>
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 7:52 PM hans <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hello Vasile
> I have always worked as you indicated. Program, unplug everything and then 
> plug it back in. prompt response that the case was not recognized. See my 
> previous message.
> Now your latest version, does nothing at all. Loaded the previous version 
> again and it works as stated before.
> regards
> Hans
>
> Op vrijdag 16 december 2022 om 18:07:52 UTC+1 schreef vasile:
>
> Hans,
> I think you are doing in this way: 
> 1. USB connection is kept permanently between your board and PC
> 2. your board is programmed with pickit and after programming you expect 
> to see immediately the pic USB device in your PC
> right?
>
> After programming you have to disconnect your PC from USB and connect it 
> again, wait a bit until the computer sees your device.
> I think the original sample will work in this way, however below is the 
> the sample (using interrupts) which should work without disconnecting your 
> PIC from USB after programming ( please note I did not tested, no 
> PIC18F4450 or PIC2550 available now).
>
> Finally you may comment the 5s delay if you wish, but you may loss the " 
> JALLIB USB Serial Demo" string.
> Hopefully will work for you.
>
> -- ---------------------------------------
> include 18f4550
>
>
> -- even though the external crystal is 20 MHz, the configuration is such 
> that
> -- the CPU clock is derived from the 96 Mhz PLL clock (div2), therefore set
> -- target frequency to 48 MHz
> pragma target clock       48_000_000
>
>
> -- fuses
> pragma target PLLDIV        P5          -- divide by 5 - 20MHZ_INPUT
> pragma target CPUDIV        P1          -- [primary oscillator src: /1][96 
> mhz pll src: /2]
> pragma target USBDIV        P2          -- CLOCK_SRC_FROM_96MHZ_PLL_2
> pragma target OSC           HS_PLL
> pragma target FCMEN         DISABLED
> pragma target IESO          DISABLED
> pragma target PWRTE         DISABLED    -- power up timer
> pragma target VREGEN        ENABLED     -- USB voltage regulator
> pragma target VOLTAGE       V21         -- brown out voltage
>
> pragma target BROWNOUT      DISABLED    -- no brownout detection
> pragma target WDTPS         P32K        -- watch dog saler setting
> pragma target WDT           CONTROL     -- watchdog software controlled
> pragma target CCP2MUX       pin_C1      -- CCP2 on pin C1
> pragma target PBADEN        DIGITAL     -- digital input port<0..4>
> pragma target LPT1OSC       LOW_POWER   -- low power timer 1
> pragma target MCLR          EXTERNAL    -- master reset on RE3
> pragma target STVR          DISABLED    -- reset on stack over/under flow
> pragma target LVP           ENABLED     -- allow low-voltage programming
>
> pragma target XINST         DISABLED     -- extended instruction set
> pragma target DEBUG         DISABLED    -- background debugging
> pragma target CP0           DISABLED    -- code block 0 not protected
> pragma target CP1           DISABLED    -- code block 1 not protected
> pragma target CP2           DISABLED    -- code block 2 not protected
> pragma target CP3           DISABLED    -- code block 3 not protected
> pragma target CPB           DISABLED    -- bootblock code not write 
> protected
> pragma target CPD           DISABLED    -- eeprom code not write protected
> pragma target WRT0          DISABLED    -- table writeblock 0 not protected
> pragma target WRT1          DISABLED    -- table write block 1 not 
> protected
> pragma target WRT2          DISABLED    -- table write block 2 not 
> protected
> pragma target WRT3          DISABLED    -- table write block 3 not 
> protected
> pragma target WRTB          DISABLED    -- bootblock not write protected
> pragma target WRTD          DISABLED    -- eeprom not write protected
> pragma target WRTC          DISABLED    -- config not write protected
> pragma target EBTR0         DISABLED    -- table read block 0 not protected
> pragma target EBTR1         DISABLED    -- table read block 1 not protected
> pragma target EBTR2         DISABLED    -- table read block 2 not protected
> pragma target EBTR3         DISABLED    -- table read block 3 not protected
> pragma target EBTRB         DISABLED    -- boot block not protected
>
> WDTCON_SWDTEN = OFF                     -- disable watchdog
>
> const USB_INTERRUPT_DRIVEN = TRUE
> include delay
> include usb_serial
> include print
>
>
> -- constants
> const  byte str_welcome[] = "JALLIB USB Serial Demo app\n"
>
> -- variables
>
> -- interrupts? No thanks
> -- INTCON_GIE = false
>
>
> -- setup the USB serial library
> usb_serial_init()
>
> var bit has_shown_welcome_msg = true
> var byte ch
>
> delay_1s (5) 
>
> -- main loop
> forever loop
>
> if !defined(USB_INTERRUPT_DRIVEN) then
>       -- When the interrupt mode is not used we need to poll the usb ISR 
> function
>       -- on a regular base, in order to serve the USB requests otherwise
>       -- this call can be removed.
>       usb_serial_flush()
>    end if
>     
>     -- check if USB device has been configured by the HOST
> if ( usb_cdc_line_status() !=  0x00 )  then
> if !has_shown_welcome_msg then
> has_shown_welcome_msg = true
> print_string( usb_serial_data, str_welcome )
> end if 
> else
> has_shown_welcome_msg = false
> end if
>
> -- check for input character
> if usb_serial_read( ch ) then
> -- echo input character
> usb_serial_data = ch
> end if
>
> end loop
> -- -------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 6:06 PM hans <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Vasile, 
> With this the connection is accepted. i see a new com port and on a 
> terminal a bunch of values.
>  I have to disconnect the Pickit. 
> Can you complete this with the example in the sample ?
> great
> Hans
>
> Op vrijdag 16 december 2022 om 15:46:26 UTC+1 schreef vasile:
>
> Hi Hans,
> could you test the following code? Just change the include PIC18F2550 with 
> PIC18F4550
>
> -- -------------------------------------------------
> include 18f2550
>
> -- even though the external crystal is 20 MHz, the configuration is such 
> that
> -- the CPU clock is derived from the 96 Mhz PLL clock (div2), therefore set
> -- target frequency to 48 MHz
> pragma target clock       48_000_000
>
>
> -- fuses
> pragma target PLLDIV        P5          -- divide by 5 - 20MHZ_INPUT
> pragma target CPUDIV        P1          -- [primary oscillator src: /1][96 
> mhz pll src: /2]
> pragma target USBDIV        P2          -- CLOCK_SRC_FROM_96MHZ_PLL_2
> pragma target OSC           HS_PLL
> pragma target FCMEN         DISABLED
> pragma target IESO          DISABLED
> pragma target PWRTE         DISABLED    -- power up timer
> pragma target VREGEN        ENABLED     -- USB voltage regulator
> pragma target VOLTAGE       V43         -- brown out voltage
> pragma target BROWNOUT      DISABLED    -- no brownout detection
> pragma target WDTPS         P32K        -- watch dog saler setting
> pragma target WDT           CONTROL     -- watchdog software controlled
> pragma target CCP2MUX       pin_C1      -- CCP2 on pin C1
> pragma target PBADEN        DIGITAL     -- digital input port<0..4>
> pragma target LPT1OSC       LOW_POWER   -- low power timer 1
> pragma target MCLR          EXTERNAL    -- master reset on RE3
> pragma target STVR          DISABLED    -- reset on stack over/under flow
> pragma target LVP           DISABLED     -- allow low-voltage programming
> pragma target XINST         DISABLED     -- extended instruction set
> pragma target DEBUG         DISABLED    -- background debugging
> pragma target CP0           DISABLED    -- code block 0 not protected
> pragma target CP1           DISABLED    -- code block 1 not protected
> pragma target CP2           DISABLED    -- code block 2 not protected
> pragma target CP3           DISABLED    -- code block 3 not protected
> pragma target CPB           DISABLED    -- bootblock code not write 
> protected
> pragma target CPD           DISABLED    -- eeprom code not write protected
> pragma target WRT0          DISABLED    -- table writeblock 0 not protected
> pragma target WRT1          DISABLED    -- table write block 1 not 
> protected
> pragma target WRT2          DISABLED    -- table write block 2 not 
> protected
> pragma target WRT3          DISABLED    -- table write block 3 not 
> protected
> pragma target WRTB          DISABLED    -- bootblock not write protected
> pragma target WRTD          DISABLED    -- eeprom not write protected
> pragma target WRTC          DISABLED    -- config not write protected
> pragma target EBTR0         DISABLED    -- table read block 0 not protected
> pragma target EBTR1         DISABLED    -- table read block 1 not protected
> pragma target EBTR2         DISABLED    -- table read block 2 not protected
> pragma target EBTR3         DISABLED    -- table read block 3 not protected
> pragma target EBTRB         DISABLED    -- boot block not protected
>
> WDTCON_SWDTEN = OFF                     -- disable watchdog
>
> const USB_INTERRUPT_DRIVEN = TRUE
> include usb_serial
> include print
> include delay
>
> -- constants
> ; const  byte str_welcome[] = "JALLIB USB Serial Demo app\n"
>
> -- setup the USB serial library
> usb_serial_init()
>
> -- variables
> var bit has_shown_welcome_msg = true
> var byte ch
> var dword counter_dw  = 0xFFFF_FFFF
> var byte counter_b = 0
> var word timer = 0
>
> delay_1s (5)
>
> -- main loop
> forever loop
>
>    if !defined(USB_INTERRUPT_DRIVEN) then
>       -- When the interrupt mode is not used we need to poll the usb ISR 
> function
>       -- on a regular base, in order to serve the USB requests otherwise
>       -- this call can be removed.
>       usb_serial_flush()
>    end if
>
>
>
> ;           timer = timer + 1
> ;        if timer == 500 then
> ;           timer = 0
>
> ;           print_byte_dec (usb_serial_data, counter_b)
> ;           _usec_delay( 1 )
> ;           usb_serial_data = " "
>            print_dword_dec( usb_serial_data, counter_dw )
> ;           _usec_delay( 1 )
>            print_crlf(usb_serial_data)
> ;           counter_dw = counter_dw + 1
> ;           counter_b = counter_b + 1
> ;        end if
> ;           _usec_delay( 1 )
>
> end loop
>
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 3:20 PM hans <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hey ,
> I have now received the 18F4550 and the 16F1455 and have tried both with 
> the usb_serial samples. programming with PicKit_3, but in all cases I get a 
> warning on my PC (both on win10 and win7) that the USB is not recognized. 
> The Vusb with capacitor reads 3.3 volts and I have programmed both with and 
> without LVP. identical to my previous attempts.
> Apparently USB is not allowed to me
> Hans
>
> Op woensdag 14 december 2022 om 14:19:16 UTC+1 schreef [email protected]:
>
> Hi Matt
>
> I see your question 10-12 now: Wednesday 14-12
>
> I am not at home for 2 days.
>
> I can test. You hear as soon as possible.
>
>  
>
> Regards
>
> Peter
>
>  
>
> *Van:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *Namens 
> *Matthew 
> Schinkel
> *Verzonden:* zondag 11 december 2022 04:18
> *Aan:* jallib <[email protected]>
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [jallib] USB_help
>
>  
>
> Hi Hans, what chip is it working on?
>
>  
>
> Is anyone else able to test the 18f4455 blink usb sample?
>
> On Saturday, December 10, 2022 at 1:18:39 PM UTC-5 hans wrote:
>
> Hello, I tested the sample 18f4455 Blink_hs_usb.jal. This one didn't work. 
> Then I restarted Bert van Dam's old business and tried the same program on 
> it. that works as it should.!!!!
> I have also tested ports D+ and D- (24 and 23) as inputs and those ports 
> work as well. I now doubt whether the PIC is broken or something else is 
> going on.
> regards
> Hans
>
> Op zaterdag 10 december 2022 om 10:30:14 UTC+1 schreef hans:
>
> Hello champs,
> I have reassembled everything and I can only conclude that the PIC itself 
> (has done some things before) is defective. Unfortunately, I no longer have 
> a PIC with USB, so I put it back in the fridge. I will have to look for 
> another one but the market is scarce.
> Thanks again for your great responses.
> regards
> Hans
>
> Op zaterdag 10 december 2022 om 06:18:17 UTC+1 schreef vasile:
>
> Yep. Matt has right.
>
> 1.The clock speed is esential.
>
> 2. You will notice quite a long delay (5s or so) between plugging the pic 
> usb and the moment when OS recognize it on pc. This depends by your 
> computer speed and pic firmware contents. If pic clk is wrong, you will not 
> see any usb device. After it appears, check on printer/pheripheral for your 
> device but watch for any warnings there....
>
> On Sat 10 Dec 2022, 4:59 AM Matthew Schinkel <[email protected] wrote:
>
> Also use the code in 18f455_blink_hs_usb.jal
>
>  
>
> You are missing this one:
>
> OSCCON_SCS = 0                      -- select primary oscillator
>
> On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 9:54:43 PM UTC-5 Matthew Schinkel wrote:
>
> Hi Hans, 
>
>  
>
> There must be an issue with your circuit. Do you have the correct clock 
> speed? Make sure a blink sample and normal serial port is working. Try 
> another PC. Windows should pick it up. 
>
>  
>
> Matt.
>
> On Friday, December 9, 2022 at 3:12:12 PM UTC-5 hans wrote:
>
> Hello,
> Thank you. I did what you recommended. Last Bee and tip from Vasile. Same 
> message from windows, not recognized and causing a malfunction. Pffffff/
> regards
> Hans
>
> Op vrijdag 9 december 2022 om 18:43:24 UTC+1 schreef [email protected]:
>
> Hi Hans,
>
>  
>
> As Vasile already mentioned Windows 10 will detect your device as a serial 
> (COM) port without the need of installing a separate driver.
>
>  
>
> Make sure you have the USB connections right. The signals are not crossed 
> like for USART, so D+ to D+ and D- to D-.
>
>  
>
> I attached a schematic diagram based on the PIC16F1455 for your 
> information and the USB connectors and what the signals look like.
>
>  
>
> Good luck!
>
>  
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
> Rob
>
>  
> ------------------------------
>
> *Van:* [email protected] <[email protected]> namens vsurducan 
> <[email protected]>
> *Verzonden:* vrijdag 9 december 2022 18:12
> *Aan:* [email protected] <[email protected]>
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [jallib] USB_help 
>
>  
>
> Hi Hans,
>
> for win10 you do not need any special driver, just a good terminal like 
> Teraterm.
>
> Download the last jal package, Rob did some modifications on USB driver, 
>
> my suggestion is to use const USB_INTERRUPT_DRIVEN = TRUE
>
> The maximum speed is about 100kbps.
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> On Fri, Dec 9, 2022 at 5:42 PM hans <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I am trying to learn more about USB and have tried a sample program( ex 
> 18F2450)  (see attachment) I keep getting the remark that windows 10 does 
> not recognize the connection and cannot install the driver. What am I doing 
> wrong??
> regards
> Hans
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