I don't know if I can take much more of Avalon.  I've lost so much 
interest in working on James because of the problems that arise from 
using Avalon, and am nearing my last straw this afternoon.

The latest problem with our use of Avalon is that if you have any open 
connections when you try to stop the JVM, it hangs and has to be 
forcibly stopped.  I thought the whole reason behind migrating to Avalon 
was so that we didn't have to deal with underlying threading, 
configuration, object pooling, database sources, connection handling, 
logging, and other server related issues.  Unfortunately, none of the 
features are implemented that wonderfully, the platform continually 
moves from one pre-alpha release to another, there are regular huge 
arguments on the dev mailing list about what latest pre-pre-alpha 
component should be added next to the already uncertain platform, and 
meanwhile the James project is stuck working again and again on stuff 
that was already working before we ported to Avalon years ago.

Sorry, I'm just really really tired of this stuff.  Since there aren't 
any real official releases of Avalon, should we just do another 
snapshot?  Or maybe just branch the code, import it into James so we can 
gain control over our project again?
-- 
Serge Knystautas
Loki Technologies - Unstoppable Websites
http://www.lokitech.com/


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