Serge,

As an Avalon advocate, who has none of the problems you mention before, 
I think I should offer my help.  Your cry for help is heard.

At the risk of contradicting you, Avalon comps have been released : -
   http://freshmeat.net/projects/avalon/?topic_id=810
Avalon-Cornerstone has not.  Avalon-Phoenix is currently shipping a beta.

Regards,

- Paul H

> I don't know if I can take much more of Avalon.  I've lost so much 
> interest in working on James because of the problems that arise from 
> using Avalon, and am nearing my last straw this afternoon.
>
> The latest problem with our use of Avalon is that if you have any open 
> connections when you try to stop the JVM, it hangs and has to be 
> forcibly stopped.  I thought the whole reason behind migrating to 
> Avalon was so that we didn't have to deal with underlying threading, 
> configuration, object pooling, database sources, connection handling, 
> logging, and other server related issues.  Unfortunately, none of the 
> features are implemented that wonderfully, the platform continually 
> moves from one pre-alpha release to another, there are regular huge 
> arguments on the dev mailing list about what latest pre-pre-alpha 
> component should be added next to the already uncertain platform, and 
> meanwhile the James project is stuck working again and again on stuff 
> that was already working before we ported to Avalon years ago.
>
> Sorry, I'm just really really tired of this stuff.  Since there aren't 
> any real official releases of Avalon, should we just do another 
> snapshot?  Or maybe just branch the code, import it into James so we 
> can gain control over our project again?





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