> 1/ that Harmeet move the whole of o.a.j.testing (including the
> pre-existing potocol tests) into a proposal or first
> sub-directory of jakarta-james where it can be used to create
> an independantly distributable test suite.

Seems good.

2/ that the scheduler/watchdog and service issues be defered until after the
release.

Disagree.  More below.

3/ we move on with the release as planned.

Yes.

> .. otherwise these will hold up what is regarded as being a
> much needed release of the 2.1a1 code.

Instead we would hold up a needed and long awaited change?  I would rather
hash this out with Harmeet and see it committed, if that doesn't take too
much longer.  And I think that is realistic, since he specifically said that
he is willing to give his +1 if everyone else agrees.

> I'd also propose that those concerned with the issues note
> them in a todo file in the root of the jakarta-james module
> to be addressed after the release.

General question: HOW?  Do we submit a patch for the TODO file?

> Unless I am missing something important none of this
> was current before the release plan, none of it
> represents fixes for pre-existing reported bugs

Actually, this is the part that's not correct.  All of this is based upon
defects identified by Andrei months ago, and discussed on the list by he,
myself, Serge, Paul, Peter and others.  It was also discussed on the Avalon
Developers mailing list.  The same problem that was reported last week, and
verified by you, was the impetus for fixing this.  If Peter hadn't taken the
time to work on NNTP first, this would have been posted weeks ago, if not
longer.

> I'm concerned that progress with the release will founder
> if we get involved in protracted debate (or worse..)

Again, a general question: what is the mechanism for resolving a debate,
other than agreement?

> I have a number of significant changes I am withholding
> until then for exactly these reasons.

LOL I can imagine we'll be having fun.  :-)  Please note that I will be at
Colorado Software Summit the first week of November
(www.softwaresummit.com), so no fair making decisions that week!  ;-)

Not that I get a vote.  :-)

        --- Noel


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