Thanks, that would be a better way to phrase it yes <g>.  But then it makes
me look like I haven't read a FAQ somewhere...:<  I'll go look and see if
there's something already available on the Apache-James site...which is what
I should have done in the first place...sometimes it's so much simpler to
just ask...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Herlemont [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 5:49 PM
> To: James Users List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Upgrading (was Re: Newsgroup integration)
>
>
> BTW I have already installed  a previous versions with users etc .... and
> spend time in config.xml ..
> So the question is : how to upgrade from a new .sar file ?
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Means" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "James Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 12:36 AM
> Subject: RE: Newsgroup integration
>
>
> > OK.  I've downloaded it, I'll try installing later tonight or tomorrow.
> >
> > Will I need to reconfigure users etc. or can I just unzip the
> distribution
> > into the same path and expect it to work?  (It will probably
> overwrite the
> > config.xml...but I can easily back that up...I'm just not sure about the
> > user mail boxes etc..)
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > -Chris
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Daniel Herlemont [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 5:27 PM
> > > To: James Users List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: Newsgroup integration
> > >
> > >
> > > http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-james/latest/
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Chris Means" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "James Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 11:54 PM
> > > Subject: RE: Newsgroup integration
> > >
> > >
> > > > Thanks Serge.
> > > >
> > > > 2.0a3 doesn't seem to be "generally" available yet (looking at
> > > > http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-james/release/), but I
> > > have both
> > > > Oracle and MySQL available, so I'll try changing to a db backend.
> > > >
> > > > However, here's what the mail admin (of the machine my James server
> was
> > > > "flooding") was seeing in the transaction:
> > > >
> > > > *****
> > > > 2002-04-24 13:03:44.069887500 qmail-smtpd: pid 19775 from
> 66.92.129.218
> > > > Non-exis
> > > > ting DNS_MX: MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > 2002-04-24 13:03:44.271008500 qmail-smtpd: pid 19777 from
> 66.92.129.218
> > > > Non-exis
> > > > ting DNS_MX: MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > 2002-04-24 13:03:44.481761500 qmail-smtpd: pid 19779 from
> 66.92.129.218
> > > > Non-exis
> > > > ting DNS_MX: MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > 2002-04-24 13:03:44.687785500 qmail-smtpd: pid 19783 from
> 66.92.129.218
> > > > Non-exis
> > > > ting DNS_MX: MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > *****
> > > >
> > > > Does that seem like the 0-byte file system problem you described?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > -Chris
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Serge Knystautas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 4:37 PM
> > > > > To: James Users List
> > > > > Subject: Re: Newsgroup integration
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I've seen this once before and dealt with a rather unknowledgeable
> and
> > > > > rude mail admin on the other end.  I would swear it was related to
> the
> > > > > 0-byte file system problem... there was a message in the
> > > outgoing spool,
> > > > > James attempted to deliver it, James would send MAIL
> FROM/RCPT TO ok
> > > > > since that was in the objectstore file, then when it tried to send
> the
> > > > > data, and rather than accept the message outright, the
> remote server
> > > > > (the one complaining about getting pounded) would see that the
> message
> > > > > James was sending didn't have a valid header (because it was an
> empty
> > > > > message... no header, no body), so it would abort the
> communication
> > > > > between our DATA and QUIT commands.  James would then say
> to itself,
> > > > > 'oh, this was a delivery problem'... it would try to save this for
> > > > > retrying, but would fail to save it because of the 0-byte
> > > stream.  James
> > > > > would then try to resume delivering message, but
> > > unfortunately found the
> > > > > same message (because it couldn't resave it) and try to deliver it
> > > again.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you could try the 2.0a3 release, I had made some patches
> > > to the file
> > > > > repository that should avoid creating the 0-byte files.  You
> > > could also
> > > > > try using a database repository as it never had this problem.
> > > > > --
> > > > > Serge Knystautas
> > > > > Loki Technologies - Unstoppable Websites
> > > > > http://www.lokitech.com/
> > > > >
> > > > > Chris Means wrote:
> > > > > > Here's a synopsis of the problem (w/James 2.0a2 on NT SP6a):
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>Your server was sending me an email with an obviously bogus
> > > > > >>envelope sender.
> > > > > >>[snip]...but when you forward a spam with a bogus
> envelope sender,
> > > your
> > > > > >>server needs to
> > > > > >>take no for an answer. It was pounding me thousands of times per
> > > > > >>hour for over
> > > > > >>a day.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Unfortunately, I don't have any James logs from that time...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What I don't know is if this could be a configuration problem
> > > > > on my end or a
> > > > > > potential bug in that version of James.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Chris
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>-----Original Message-----
> > > > > >>From: Danny Angus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > >>Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 1:50 PM
> > > > > >>To: James Users List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >>Subject: RE: Newsgroup integration
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>>David,
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>I posted a message about a potential problem in James 2.0a2
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>with messages
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>>with invalid headers/addresses being rejected by a
> remote server
> > > > > >>>(and James
> > > > > >>>ignoring the rejection), but no one responded to that one
> either...
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Post that one again...
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>FYI this isn't a very busy project, posts often get ignored
> > > > > simply because
> > > > > >>no one has enough time to deal with them, its not a snub.
> > > > >
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