Great stuff.  I'll put this into the FAQ, probably with a bit of 
explanation on each step.  Thanks!
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Loki Technologies - Unstoppable Websites
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Daniel Herlemont wrote:
>>Thanks, that would be a better way to phrase it yes <g>.
> 
> 
> :)
> 
> BTW I just installed a new version with success ...
> 
> I don't know if it is the right way but it worked for me :
> 
> 1. rename the previous james directory into a james.old
> 2 run phoenix to let the new james.sar be deployed.
> 3. copy config.xml from james.old to the new deployed james/conf directory
> 4. replace the var directory by the previous var directory.
> 5. restart phoenix/james.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Means" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Daniel Herlemont" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "James Users List"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 12:56 AM
> Subject: RE: Upgrading (was Re: Newsgroup integration)
> 
> 
> 
>>Thanks, that would be a better way to phrase it yes <g>.  But then it
> 
> makes
> 
>>me look like I haven't read a FAQ somewhere...:<  I'll go look and see if
>>there's something already available on the Apache-James site...which is
> 
> what
> 
>>I should have done in the first place...sometimes it's so much simpler to
>>just ask...
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Daniel Herlemont [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 5:49 PM
>>>To: James Users List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Subject: Upgrading (was Re: Newsgroup integration)
>>>
>>>
>>>BTW I have already installed  a previous versions with users etc ....
>>
> and
> 
>>>spend time in config.xml ..
>>>So the question is : how to upgrade from a new .sar file ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Chris Means" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: "James Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 12:36 AM
>>>Subject: RE: Newsgroup integration
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>OK.  I've downloaded it, I'll try installing later tonight or
>>>
> tomorrow.
> 
>>>>Will I need to reconfigure users etc. or can I just unzip the
>>>
>>>distribution
>>>
>>>>into the same path and expect it to work?  (It will probably
>>>
>>>overwrite the
>>>
>>>>config.xml...but I can easily back that up...I'm just not sure about
>>>
> the
> 
>>>>user mail boxes etc..)
>>>>
>>>>Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>-Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Daniel Herlemont [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 5:27 PM
>>>>>To: James Users List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>Subject: Re: Newsgroup integration
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-james/latest/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Chris Means" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>To: "James Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 11:54 PM
>>>>>Subject: RE: Newsgroup integration
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks Serge.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>2.0a3 doesn't seem to be "generally" available yet (looking at
>>>>>>http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-james/release/), but I
>>>>>
>>>>>have both
>>>>>
>>>>>>Oracle and MySQL available, so I'll try changing to a db backend.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>However, here's what the mail admin (of the machine my James
>>>>>
> server
> 
>>>was
>>>
>>>>>>"flooding") was seeing in the transaction:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>*****
>>>>>>2002-04-24 13:03:44.069887500 qmail-smtpd: pid 19775 from
>>>>>
>>>66.92.129.218
>>>
>>>>>>Non-exis
>>>>>>ting DNS_MX: MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>2002-04-24 13:03:44.271008500 qmail-smtpd: pid 19777 from
>>>>>
>>>66.92.129.218
>>>
>>>>>>Non-exis
>>>>>>ting DNS_MX: MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>2002-04-24 13:03:44.481761500 qmail-smtpd: pid 19779 from
>>>>>
>>>66.92.129.218
>>>
>>>>>>Non-exis
>>>>>>ting DNS_MX: MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>2002-04-24 13:03:44.687785500 qmail-smtpd: pid 19783 from
>>>>>
>>>66.92.129.218
>>>
>>>>>>Non-exis
>>>>>>ting DNS_MX: MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>*****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Does that seem like the 0-byte file system problem you described?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>From: Serge Knystautas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 4:37 PM
>>>>>>>To: James Users List
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: Newsgroup integration
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I've seen this once before and dealt with a rather
>>>>>>
> unknowledgeable
> 
>>>and
>>>
>>>>>>>rude mail admin on the other end.  I would swear it was related
>>>>>>
> to
> 
>>>the
>>>
>>>>>>>0-byte file system problem... there was a message in the
>>>>>>
>>>>>outgoing spool,
>>>>>
>>>>>>>James attempted to deliver it, James would send MAIL
>>>>>>
>>>FROM/RCPT TO ok
>>>
>>>>>>>since that was in the objectstore file, then when it tried to
>>>>>>
> send
> 
>>>the
>>>
>>>>>>>data, and rather than accept the message outright, the
>>>>>>
>>>remote server
>>>
>>>>>>>(the one complaining about getting pounded) would see that the
>>>>>>
>>>message
>>>
>>>>>>>James was sending didn't have a valid header (because it was an
>>>>>>
>>>empty
>>>
>>>>>>>message... no header, no body), so it would abort the
>>>>>>
>>>communication
>>>
>>>>>>>between our DATA and QUIT commands.  James would then say
>>>>>>
>>>to itself,
>>>
>>>>>>>'oh, this was a delivery problem'... it would try to save this
>>>>>>
> for
> 
>>>>>>>retrying, but would fail to save it because of the 0-byte
>>>>>>
>>>>>stream.  James
>>>>>
>>>>>>>would then try to resume delivering message, but
>>>>>>
>>>>>unfortunately found the
>>>>>
>>>>>>>same message (because it couldn't resave it) and try to deliver
>>>>>>
> it
> 
>>>>>again.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>If you could try the 2.0a3 release, I had made some patches
>>>>>>
>>>>>to the file
>>>>>
>>>>>>>repository that should avoid creating the 0-byte files.  You
>>>>>>
>>>>>could also
>>>>>
>>>>>>>try using a database repository as it never had this problem.
>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>Serge Knystautas
>>>>>>>Loki Technologies - Unstoppable Websites
>>>>>>>http://www.lokitech.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Chris Means wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Here's a synopsis of the problem (w/James 2.0a2 on NT SP6a):
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Your server was sending me an email with an obviously bogus
>>>>>>>>>envelope sender.
>>>>>>>>>[snip]...but when you forward a spam with a bogus
>>>>>>>>
>>>envelope sender,
>>>
>>>>>your
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>server needs to
>>>>>>>>>take no for an answer. It was pounding me thousands of times
>>>>>>>>
> per
> 
>>>>>>>>>hour for over
>>>>>>>>>a day.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Unfortunately, I don't have any James logs from that time...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>What I don't know is if this could be a configuration problem
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>on my end or a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>potential bug in that version of James.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>-Chris
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>From: Danny Angus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 1:50 PM
>>>>>>>>>To: James Users List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>>Subject: RE: Newsgroup integration
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>David,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I posted a message about a potential problem in James 2.0a2
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>with messages
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>with invalid headers/addresses being rejected by a
>>>>>>>>>
>>>remote server
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>(and James
>>>>>>>>>>ignoring the rejection), but no one responded to that one
>>>>>>>>>
>>>either...
>>>
>>>>>>>>>Post that one again...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>FYI this isn't a very busy project, posts often get ignored
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>simply because
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>no one has enough time to deal with them, its not a snub.


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