Thanks for the response.  You gave me the clue that i needed to fix the
problem...
You said: 'The whole point of the DNS is for the server to do that work, not
the client.  James is just a DNS client.'

And i realized, that in my foolishness, i wasn't using my isp's dns servers,
but some root dns servers that won't do that work.  (eg: A.GTLD-SERVERS.NET)
Now that i'm using my isp's dns servers, they are doing the work of
'de-referencing' the authoritative records and obtaining the MX-records that
james needs.

Thanks again,
--mark imel

----- Original Message -----
From: "Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "James Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 10:51 AM
Subject: RE: Resolving MXs


> > BTW: I'm using the dns 1.2.3 which is compatible with James2.1.
>
> We have replacement dns code that I wanted to get more testing on before
> putting it out, so I'll put up a test build for you to try.
>
> I'm wondering about one of your local dns servers not giving you the
correct
> results.  What software is running the DNS on each of your servers?  We
have
> bind 8 running on one gateway, and bind 9 running elsewhere.  The whole
> point of the DNS is for the server to do that work, not the client.  James
> is just a DNS client.
>
> --- Noel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Imel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 12:11
> To: James Users List
> Subject: Re: Resolving MXs
>
>
> Thanks for the response Noel,
>
> Its not clear to me that just letting the dns library try again solves the
> problem.  I'm having this problem with a number of domains and as a
result,
> getting a lot of emails bounced back as undeliverable due to this reason.
>
> To me, it seems like either i've really messed up my config, or its a bug
> with the DNSServer class.  And after stepping through the code, i'm
leaning
> towards the latter.
>
> IMHO (i'm just a james-newbie, so i'm quite likely to be mistaken), i feel
> that if the DNS records come back with no answers, but some authoritative
> sources for MX records, those returned authoritative sources should be
> queried instead of querying the exact same source.
>
> Regards,
> --mark
>
> BTW: I'm using the dns 1.2.3 which is compatible with James2.1.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "James Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 1:32 AM
> Subject: RE: Resolving MXs
>
>
> > Mark,
> >
> > Are you using the version of dnsjava that came with James, or the newer
> > version?  Those are typically transient.  I've seen 25 of them since
> > mid-August (yes, I grepped the logs).  They invariably clear up on the
> > second attempt.
> >
> > I ran the same thing, and got this:
> >
> > $ java -cp dnsjava-1.3.2.jar dig hotmail.com mx
> > ; java dig 0.0
> > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: STATUS, status: NOERROR, id: 25218
> > ;; flags: qr rd ra ; qd: 1 an: 4 au: 4 ad: 14
> > ;; QUESTIONS:
> > ;;      hotmail.com., type = MX, class = IN
> >
> > ;; ANSWERS:
> > hotmail.com.    3248 IN MX              5 mx2.hotmail.com.
> > hotmail.com.    3248 IN MX              5 mx3.hotmail.com.
> > hotmail.com.    3248 IN MX              5 mx4.hotmail.com.
> > hotmail.com.    3248 IN MX              5 mx1.hotmail.com.
> >
> > ;; AUTHORITY RECORDS:
> > hotmail.com.    63491 IN NS             ns1.hotmail.com.
> > hotmail.com.    63491 IN NS             NS2.hotmail.com.
> > hotmail.com.    63491 IN NS             NS3.hotmail.com.
> > hotmail.com.    63491 IN NS             NS4.hotmail.com.
> >
> > ;; ADDITIONAL RECORDS:
> > mx2.hotmail.com.        3248 IN A               65.54.254.145
> > mx2.hotmail.com.        3248 IN A               65.54.252.230
> > mx2.hotmail.com.        3248 IN A               65.54.166.230
> > mx3.hotmail.com.        3248 IN A               65.54.254.140
> > mx3.hotmail.com.        3248 IN A               65.54.253.99
> > mx4.hotmail.com.        3248 IN A               65.54.254.151
> > mx4.hotmail.com.        3248 IN A               65.54.253.230
> > mx1.hotmail.com.        3248 IN A               65.54.254.129
> > mx1.hotmail.com.        3248 IN A               65.54.252.99
> > mx1.hotmail.com.        3248 IN A               65.54.166.99
> > ns1.hotmail.com.        63491 IN A              216.200.206.140
> > NS2.hotmail.com.        63491 IN A              216.200.206.139
> > NS3.hotmail.com.        63491 IN A              209.185.130.68
> > NS4.hotmail.com.        63491 IN A              64.4.29.24
> >
> > ;; done (405 bytes)
> >
> > I was able to reproduce those results with both v1.2.3 and v1.3.2 of
> > dnsjava, on both Windows XP and linux.
> >
> > --- Noel
>
>
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