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I think that people like bill is the one that don
let mailing lists work fine and do their purposes.
I propose to put Bill out of the list.
Jeff Silverman wrote:
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> On Tue, 28 Dec 1999, Bill Ataras wrote:
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> > Is it just me or is jon a nazi ?
> Jon has an attitude. It is a disciplined one - this list is for certain
> purposes and no other. It is for desperate cases and legitimate problems,
> not for things that are covered in the documentation.
>
> Bill, do you know what a Nazi is? It isn't just a random epithet to sling
> at somebody who's a pain in the butt. Nazis are people who commit
> genocide or who advocate genocide or who idealize and pretend to be such
> people. The Nazis killed over 8 million people in world war II, and their
> world view started a war that cost the lives of over 30 million people.
> That's what a Nazi is.
>
> Granted, some of Jon's responses have rubbed the wrong way. Martha
> Stewert he ain't (on the other hand, Martha Stewert doesn't write
> software). But just because he is tactless is no reason to call him a
> Nazi. Rude, yes; a Nazi, no.
>
> Words have power, Bill. You need to think about what you write and what
> you say. So does Jon, but I am writing about you right now. Your writing
> is under your control. You have the power to set a good example of
> civility for the rest of us. You could have, for example, written, "Is it
> just me or is Jon rude?"; or you could have written, for example, "Sorry,
> but it isn't clear to me, would you please help me?".
>
> The reason why I am sending this to the list instead of to you privately
> is because there is a lot of this uncivil crap floating around The
> Internet. I am offended by it, and I am responding to it by sending
> Strongly Worded Letters (SWLs) to lists on which it appears. Bill, I too
> am offended by your comment, and I expect some sort of contrition.
>
> Jeff
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> >
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> > >From: jon * <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: "Java Apache Users" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: Java Apache Users <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: Re: Tomcat, JSERV, & LOGS
> > >Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 14:42:17 -0800
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> > >on 12/28/99 2:12 PM, David Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I just installed tomcat for 1st time....running well, however, am I
> > >crazy,
> > > > or are there no log files? where are they?
> > > > I tried starting up like:
> > > > ../startup.sh > /path/to/log/file
> > > > however the above does not get stack traces
> > >
> > >What part of Java Apache Users suggested that this is the "Tomcat" list?
> > >
> > >Go to jakarta.apache.org and ask your questions on the mailing lists there.
> > >
> > >-jon
> > >
> > >--
> > >Come to the first official Apache Software Foundation
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