On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Ruwan Linton <[email protected]>wrote:

> Well, even right now, One has to build the distribution module separately
> after building the axis2 project from the root pom. So in effect it is
> really a separate thing. I suggest we move the axis2 distribution into a
> separate subproject under Axis2. I really think that the Axis2 distro should
> have Rampart and Sandesha2 built into it. We can also decide on the
> transports that we need to add by default to this distro with this method.


+1. I am sure it will be much easier for the users to have a distro with
Security & RM built-in rather than downloading them separately and
installing them and they also won't have to worry about which Rampart
version and which Sandesha version work with a given Axis2 version etc.

Best Regards,
Nandana


>
>
> On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Samisa Abeysinghe <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> If it is too many logistics to build one pack, we can have separate packs
>> but release all three at the same time, at least few days apart
>>
>> Samisa...
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Andreas Veithen <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> This would require again changes to the project structure and/or to
>>> the build and release system. I'm not in principle against this, but
>>> the issue I see with this is the following: In 2009 we moved the
>>> transports into a separate project and in 2010 we migrated to a new
>>> TLP. All this required lots of changes and it took a long time to
>>> complete this (the TLP migration is still not entirely complete). If
>>> we change the project structure every year and every time it takes
>>> months to complete this, then we will never reach a stable situation.
>>>
>>> My counterproposal is to keep things as they are in terms of project
>>> structure, but continue to streamline the release processes. We can
>>> then move to a release early, release often policy (as is happening
>>> right now with the Axis2 1.5 branch) and also have simultaneous
>>> releases (as I did for Sandesha2 and Axis2). This would allow us to
>>> keep the flexibility to postpone the release of one of the subprojects
>>> if there are blocking issues.
>>>
>>> To summarize: I think that the real pain point is not that we have
>>> separate subprojects, but that the release cycles are too long. This
>>> can only be solved by making the release process easier, more
>>> predictable and well documented.
>>>
>>> Andreas
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 05:09, Ruwan Linton <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> > In the future how about bundling Rampart and Sandesha2 into the Axis2
>>> > distribution itself? It is really part of Axis2 I guess. The recent
>>> > experience that I had with the Synapse release convinced me that
>>> Rampart and
>>> > Sandesha2 are really part of Axis2? Why do't we create a one single
>>> > distribution with Rampart and Sandesh2 when we release Axis2.
>>> > May be I am hijacking this thread, but I guess this thread is there
>>> also
>>> > because of the above issue of separately releasing the Rampart and
>>> > Sandesha2.
>>> > WDYT?
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Ruwan
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Thilina Mahesh Buddhika
>>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 7:56 AM, Samisa Abeysinghe
>>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> We have fixed loads of Rampart issues yesterday and we will be able
>>> to
>>> >>> fix some more today as well.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> How about a release ASAP? I think users will benefit by having latest
>>> >>> rampart working with latest Axis2.
>>> >>
>>> >> +1.
>>> >>
>>> >> We can do this release based on the recently released WSS4J 1.5.10.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks,
>>> >> Thilina
>>> >>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Samisa...
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
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