On Tue, Dec 22, 1998 at 11:11:08AM +0100, Artur Biesiadowski wrote:

> John Goerzen wrote:
> 
> I personally do not use highly integrated IDEs and it seems that you do
> not also, but do not think that Xemacs is an IDE - it is just very smart
> editor. What it lacks ?
> 
> Graphical composition of GUI components, including positioaning them,

I'm sorry, but you can certainly have IDEs without this.  I remember using
Borland C++ 2.0 under DOS, which had what everyone would call an IDE. 
Before that, I used Turbo Pascal 5.5 under DOS, which also had an IDE -- and
everyone called it that.  XEmacs has far more features than either of those,
both IDE-wise and otherwise, so I cannot understand how you can claim that
something that does more than other IDEs is not an IDE.

> disvovering their properties by beans mechanism, creating handlers for
> them by simple clicking, editing their properties with instant effect on
> the screen.

So what you're wanting is a Java visual development environment. 
Incidentally, I have yet to see one of those that I like, for Java or
otherwise.  They often work by laying out components at certain pixel
locations, which is even worse in Java than elsewhere, because fonts and
sizes of widgets can vary tremendously between systems.  Also, none of them
that I've seen will do Swing, which I use, so that rules them all out.  Back
to XEmacs.

> is really pitty one. I'm talking about something with ability to check
> variables by moving mouse over them , graphically displaying and
> followingg instance variables (as ddd does) etc.

I've never used jdb, but I must say that for a debugger, I prefer gdb. 
Nothing else, except perhaps the XEmacs interface to it, is really
acceptable.  I find that limitations of a GUI get to be cumbersome in many
cases.

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