On Tue, 22 Dec 1998, John Goerzen wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 22, 1998 at 11:11:08AM +0100, Artur Biesiadowski wrote:
>
> > John Goerzen wrote:
> >
> > I personally do not use highly integrated IDEs and it seems that you do
> > not also, but do not think that Xemacs is an IDE - it is just very smart
> > editor. What it lacks ?
> >
> > Graphical composition of GUI components, including positioaning them,
>
> I'm sorry, but you can certainly have IDEs without this. I remember using
> Borland C++ 2.0 under DOS, which had what everyone would call an IDE.
> Before that, I used Turbo Pascal 5.5 under DOS, which also had an IDE -- and
> everyone called it that. XEmacs has far more features than either of those,
> both IDE-wise and otherwise, so I cannot understand how you can claim that
> something that does more than other IDEs is not an IDE.
What was state of the art with DOS doesn't compare with the modern scene,
eigher in function or in machine requirements.
> Incidentally, I have yet to see one of those that I like, for Java or
> otherwise. They often work by laying out components at certain pixel
> locations, which is even worse in Java than elsewhere, because fonts and
> sizes of widgets can vary tremendously between systems. Also, none of them
> that I've seen will do Swing, which I use, so that rules them all out. Back
> to XEmacs.
IBM's Visual Age for Java includes Swing. The entry version is free and
available for OS/2 and NT. I've heard rumours of a Linux version coming.
--
Cheers
John Summerfield
http://os2.ami.com.au/os2/ for OS/2 support.
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