Can we PLEASE stop this inane thread? It's pointless. Some people like
Java for everything, some for certain things, others for nothing at all.
I don't see what those people are doing on this list and I don't see how
any of this is relevant to Java on Linux. You don't like Swing? Fine.
Don't use it. However, don't just rip on it because you think it's junk
without something to back it up other than "it's too slow". I'm working
for a company in the final stages of a sizable commercial Java/Swing
development project. We use Java/Swing on the client, servlets and
Java/JNI stuff for performance in our middleware that communicates back
to our database. It scales well, runs well (extensively tested on Mac,
Windows, Irix and Linux), looks great and has been developed in a very
short period of time. For our needs, Java is the only technology that
could have done all this and it's done it very very well. Our users are
happy, our developers are happy and it's all because of Java. Our
biggest bottlenecks have involved network traffic, not GUI performance
and that has nothing to do with Java. SO, this stuff works...not
perfectly but darn well and it's certainly better then any of the other
options available for the majority of "corporate" application development
needs. Don't argue Java vs. perl vs. PHP vs. C vs. whatever...it's
pointless. Accept the fact that Java is a great tool for a lot of
things, use it for those things and use other technologies where
appropriate and leave the rest of us alone. We don't care about your
opinions.
Ryan Sutter
