I still cannot completely agree with Brian - credit not
"should be given", but must be given. If you work for the
company and you patented something, the company owns the
patent, but you still own your name on the patent. Company
cannot change it, otherwise the patent will be invalidated.
Sun owns the code, but I think they don't own the name of
the person who produced that code. They cannot change it.
There is something here.
I worked for software companies for many years and always
compared myself with ancient egyptian worker who built egyptian
pyramids. Everybody admires them, but nobody knows who built
them.
With open source movement the situation is changing. However,
I am not sure that Sun's community license and even GPL pay
enough attention to the name ownership. Otherwise, we would
not have "GNU/Linux" discussion, because both use GPL.
Code released under my name promotes me and makes me responsible
for it.
Michael Young gave his IPO shares to some Linux developers years
after they did their work. It created good precedent for Blackdown
team. Who knows, may be McNealy is going to do something like that
in the future?
Jacob Nikom
Brian Pomerantz wrote:
>
> On Tue, Dec 07, 1999 at 06:28:29PM -0500, Jacob Nikom wrote:
> > But it does matter how it was claimed. If the work was done by
> > Inprise it is one thing, if it is only relabeling of Blackdown
> > code, it is another.
>
> I was speaking from a legal standpoint. According to Sun's brain-dead
> license, they own all changes to derivative works. I agree that
> credit should be given where it is due.
>
> >
> > This is the text:
> > "Inprise and Sun Microsystems have taken a big step toward
> > maintaining open, standards-based network computing architectures
> > that utilize technologies like Linux and the Java 2 platform,"
> > said Dale Fuller, Interim CEO and President of Inprise."
> >
> >
> > I think it is the drawback of the "Open Source" model. Technically,
> > you can take any code and release it as yours after few changes.
> >
> > It is interesting what guys from Inprise think about it?
> >
>
> I think it is actually a drawback to the marketing departments not
> knowing much of anything on what they create press releases out of.
> Having worked at a place that was always trying to pull a press
> release out of thin air, I've seen how the most innocent comment or
> piece of fluff can be made to sound like ground breaking news. I
> seriously doubt they meant to not hand over credit. I'm sure the
> problem was that nobody told the marketing droids to specifically say
> most of the Linux changes in the JDK were made by Blackdown.
>
> BAPper
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