On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Dennis Sosnoski <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I don't know why you've reacted in this way, but you've disparaged my

professional reputation by accusing me of writing "articles that are
> intentionally damaging to Axis2." I'd like to see some substance to back
> up that statement.
>

I agree that my statement could be interpreted as attempting to damage your
professional reputation. I apologize and would like to drop the word
"intentionally" - your articles have indeed been damaging to Axis2 and
related components (Axiom for example) but it was wrong of me to suggest
those were somehow strategic rather than something else.

We both have commercial interests in Axis2. I provide training classes
> for CXF and Metro as well as Axis2, but Axis2 gets top billing on my
> site because it's been the main focus of my trainings for several years:
> http://www.sosnoski.com/wsclass.html#axis2 That aside, I'm genuinely
> neutral in my use of the three stacks and can and do provide consulting
> and training for CXF and Metro, as well as Axis2. I don't think that's
> the case with WSO2.
>

So you're trying to paint some kind of a "I'm more saintly than you are"
thing? You can accuse me of being biased because of commercial interest
whereas your'e saintly and totally objective? Sure :).

We all have "commercial" interest in Axis2 - not just you and me but most of
us here. That's the reality with much of open source. "Commercial interest"
may simply be having this software somehow be part of my job.

However, please stop suggesting that my interest in defending Axis2 (like
when the new guys running ws.apache.org made it an immediate action to
delete any trace of Axis or Axis2 mention on the ws.apache.org homepage!) is
because of my commercial interest. As a project that originated in Sri Lanka
under the Lanka Software Foundation, I have a LOT of personal interest in
seeing it be successful and I agree I get a bit defensive when I see it
under attack. There are many people who've contributed to making it be what
it is today (the start was just that - only a start) and I'm not going to
stay quietly when I see it being treated unfairly in any way.

No, dude, *you're* the one who appears to be claiming that there are
> many scenarios where Axis2 is "hugely better than CXF". I don't know
> what these scenarios are, and when I've asked for any kind of specifics
> you've said you're not going to waste your time helping me figure those
> out. So who's spinning a line here?
>

I don't know what "spinning a line" means. However, again, its not my job to
show you where Axis2's strengths lie! If you really believe that CXF is
always better than Axis2 then why are you wasting your time with Axis2? You
might as well help them hit the record for minimal open issues - a measure
that you touted to claim that Axis2 is crap.

As you, I also have no interest in wasting more time on this thread. I will
agree to disagree with you on the merits of Axis2 and just leave it at that.
I have apologized for the potentially harmful statement I have made.

Sanjiva.
-- 
Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
http://www.opensource.lk/
Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/
Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/
Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/
Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/
Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/

Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/

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