On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 3:10 AM, Dennis Sosnoski <d...@sosnoski.com> wrote: > > > does better. Do you seriously thnk Axis2 doesn't have many scenarios > > where its not hugely better than CXF? > > I'd very much like to know what these scenarios are. >
I'm afraid I'm not going to waste my time to help you figure those out :). You've demonstrated repeatedly that you have the power and apparently the will to write articles that are intentionally damaging to Axis2. If you want to find good things about it I'm sure you could . If you want to find fault, I'm sure you can. Such is always the way with life. Or if you really believe that CXF is wholesale better than Axis2 then what are you doing hanging around here? It doesn't make sense.. or maybe CXF needs more Axis2 users to adopt it? I have no idea and as Deepal said that's not what we do. If people want to use Axis2 great. If not, honestly, its fine. There are TONS of open source alternatives of everything now and in any case there are tons of people happy with their proprietary product. We don't have issues with that. Let many flowers bloom- we have always had that attitude in the WS project (well at least the old one, now its a new world and it still has to find its groove) and will continue to have that here. Not all projects in Apache really follow the Apache Way when it comes to alternatives. We try to but I'm sure we're not perfect either. Well, the Rampart JIRA currently shows 131 open issues, and that's just > the actual security implementation code. The CXF Jira shows a total of > 217 open issues for the whole project, with only 40 for the WS-* > components (many of which don't relate to security). If the Axis2 > implementation is so solid, I'm curious why there are so many unresolved > issues? > Wow Dennis I cannot believe you are trying to make judgments about the quality of a piece of software by that one single measure. I thought you knew more than that considering how long you've been around here. Simple answer: Axis has a lot of open issues because its a mature project and many of us are not bothering to go clean up old cruft. The system works just fine for literally millions of people and, while I haven't checked recently, it is getting downloaded massively every month. It is the core of WS-* work for small companies to mega corporations. Its used as a direct library by many many people. Maybe you don't believe it, but it really does work. Quite well at that. We who worked on this project are very proud of the impact it has had on the world. Finally, I did waste 5 minutes to quote you some numbers. Here are the open bug counts in a few projects right now: XalanJ2 - 567 Tomcat 6 - 98 Log4J - 184 Ant - 588 Axis1 - 1058 I guess by your one measure Axis1, Log4J, XalanJ2 all would be crap too. Even Tomcat6 has nearly 100 open bugs; oh my god lets dismiss that too! I encourage you to spend your time fixing the CXF issues so you can hold the world record on least open bugs for the longest sustained time. If people make decisions on that then that'll certainly help CXF get more users. Good luck - we have no objection at all. We're writing this software for people who want to use it to use it; if you don't want to use it please don't use it! We don't charge, we don't expect anything in return and we don't even feel bad if you don't use it. My hair will not grow back whatever you decide to do. Before you jump on that- *of course* that does not mean that we want to have more open bugs than CXF or anyone else. I *wish* we had the award for the shortest sustained open bugs count, but frankly, I can't be that bothered ... the system works and barring an occasional hiccup I believe that many of the bugs are invalid or nice-to-have things or subjective opinions. Sanjiva. -- Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation; http://www.opensource.lk/ Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2; http://wso2.com/ Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems; http://www.thinkcube.com/ Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/ Member; Sahana Software Foundation; http://www.sahanafoundation.org/ Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/ Blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/
