At 10:13 AM 6/14/99 -0700, you wrote:
>At 12:38 PM 6/14/99 -0400, you wrote:
>>But, James, I want to use my power for good . . . :)
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>I work with a bunch of VB people and am quite envious of their environment
>(they work primarily with MS Access). Besides cross platform compatability
>(which really isn't all there), what other great things does Java offer
>that's better than VB?
Hmmm. I thought you were a Java guy. . . I'm an embedded systems guy, so
databases and web stuff are out mostly of my realm, but seriously?
Unlike VB, Java really is a fully OO language. Unlike C++, its OO is
enforced. Also unlike C++, it is impossible to create a memory leak or an
uninitialized pointer, etc. (By various means, a buggy JVM could still
screw up the memory, though). There are several other imnportant things
Java has to offer, like being easier to learn than C++, less demanding of
programmer self-discipline to get a consistent methodology out of a group
of programmers, having dynamic binding, automatic garbage collection, a
single common base class, consistent self-documentation in HTML, etc. There
are other great OO languages, but Java caught on in a very big way. An OO
version of Forth would be *my* top choice, but I suppose it would also have
to be named after a popular drug and championed by an influential
workstation maker, which raises all kinds of amusing possiblities, but does
not seem too likely.
I do not care much about write once run anywhere, as if. Much of what I
write is pretty low level, anyway. For me, Java is "just another language",
but is also just better. I am in fact using a version that is fully
compiled to object code, and I hope more or all Java will at least
optionally be this way in the future.
2D looks to me like it is sort of a peripheral gizmo, taped and stapled
onto the actual language. I assume there will be or are offerings from
outside Sun that better meet 2D's design goals, but feel that it would be
nicer if Sun had it together in this area.
David Janszen
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>>Hey, do people in La Jolla really wind-surf all the time? :)
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>Actually, they don't because I believe it's illegal to wind surf with the
>surfers. You generally see boats, surfers, half naken bodies, kayaks, and
>scuba divers. I don't think I've ever seen a wind surfer tackling the waves.
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