> just talking generically I am not looking > to put model info into the view.
No, you're using core view classes in your model. The Shape and its derived classes are for painting on the screen. Although they might seem like a good option to use in the model, they aren't in most cases (as you're starting to see), since they're targeting the screen (view). [Message sent by forum member 'kirillcool' (kirillcool)] http://forums.java.net/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=228057 =========================================================================== To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "signoff JAVA2D-INTEREST". For general help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "help".