Don't we have better things to discuss than language? Justin's credibility comes from his extensive work with Java. If he wishes to undermine his credibility with profanity that's his problem. I agree with Dave, I don't want any automated function filtering messages. Hopefully we are all adults and can easily ignore such outbursts (it's a bit harder to ignore huge attachments).
- John Wright Starfire Research "Yazel, David J." wrote: > > I have never understood why some people think that some language is > "offensive" but other language is not. For example it is apparently ok to > use the word "piss" in your signature (Mona), but Justin can't say F*** . I > think you are treading a thin subjective moral line here. > > In any event, I don't want some automated censor-bot to tell me what I can > read and what I can't read. I generally find Justin's language to be blunt > and generally right on the mark. There were a lot of people who were ticked > off by that big e-mail and he certainly spoke for me when he made that > statement. > > Besides, without Justin, standing up to that Flavin lunatic would fall to > less eloquent people and that would be a tragedy. > > Dave Yazel > http://www.cosm-game.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mona Wong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 2:53 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [JAVA3D] need a language filter along with a size filter > > Hi Justin and others: > > > As for the specifics of my post, well that's just me. > > Justin, you and I have already exchanged private emails about the > profanity you used in one of your email postings to the list. You say > that's > just you; fine, I have no problem with you being you. I do not, however, > feel > that profanity is appropriate in a public email list ... whether it is from > you > or anyone else. You can choose to continue your behavior in which case I'll > have to ask for you to be removed from the list. I think you are a > valueable > contribution to this list, I truly do, so I would like to ask you (and > everyone > else) to not express profanity on this list. If you are angry at someone > and > feel you must use profanity, then email the person privately and not direct > your > anger at everyone on this list. > > > I'm not about sucking up to people and if there is something wrong > > I'll say something about it. > > I'm not asking you to suck up to anyone and I would highly encourage > you > and others to say something when you feel something is wrong. That is what > I am > doing right now also. > > > I don't care if it offends some people. > > That there is a fine line between saying what you feel is right and > not > worrying about offending people and knowing that you will offend people and > not > care and saying it anyway. > > If you really mean what you are saying, then you might learn > someday, > that if people take offense to your message, your message will not come > across > and be effective or worse, it will have a negative affect and achieve quite > the > opposite of what you want. You might also learn one day, that there are > more > than one way to get your message across. > > Justin, I see you as someone who enjoys being a leader on this list > and > I certainly appreciate your leadership on this list. If you want your > communication to be effective, you must be responsible for how others will > take > your message. > > Cheers, > > Mona > > ================================================================== > Mona Wong > National Center for Microscopy and Imaging Research > University of California, San Diego > http://ncmir.ucsd.edu/ > > "The truth shall set you free, but first it will piss you off" > A Landmark instructor > ================================================================== > > =========================================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body > of the message "signoff JAVA3D-INTEREST". For general help, send email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "help". > > =========================================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body > of the message "signoff JAVA3D-INTEREST". For general help, send email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "help". =========================================================================== To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "signoff JAVA3D-INTEREST". For general help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "help".
