In Europe I know of at least 2 organisations making efforts for a low cost
linux pc CAVE.
Don't know how far they are yet.
You can visit the ARS ELECTRONICA futurelab website and look for ARSBOX
http://futurelab.aec.at/
or check Sara http://www.sara.nl/

evo

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Terrazas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:07 PM
Subject: [JAVA3D] CAVES-give me one on a PC


> Let's make sure we change the subject of this
> thread to CAVES so others can search.
>
> By the way, Sowrizral apparently is doing
> something unrelated to 3D graphics even.
>
> Regarding the CAVES.  The issue for me is
> whether I can run it on something other
> than Sun (especially PC).  Not that I have
> anything against Sun technology--in fact--
> I am totally apolitical regarding hardware
> and operating systems.  But PCs are inexpensive-
> and for me to sell a CAVE system for mental
> health applications, it probably needs to
> be cheap.
>
> That said, the PC so far can only handle 2
> screens--which I have running and it is
> pretty nice.  One thing I like is that
> I can reposition my two screens all over
> the place-front back-sides--if I could do
> this with a single PC and 4-6 screens, we
> would really have something.
>
> The counter to the argument is that with 4-6
> screens, graphics cards, tracking, etc. who
> cares that the PC costs 5-10K less--indeed,
> a single Sun CPU could drive all the graphics
> pipelines (I think) and that would save.
>
> Can someone outline the approximate cost of
> the Sun CAVE?  I would guess about $80K-100K.
> but I could see it getting much higher
>
> My guess:
>
> Tracker $10K
> Sun equipment $20K
> Projectors: $2-3K * 6 $18K each
> Screens and construcution: $10K
> Stereoglasses: $1K
>
> Well, maybe not $80K but I bet that's close.
>
> How about Linux/Windows CAVE?  My student tells
> me we can now sync multiple PCs using a new
> graphics card but I am dubious-plus each PC
> would cost another $1500 or so--what is the
> future of multiple pipes on PC?  Why is this
> so hard for PC's but not other platforms?
>
> Another idea-should we form a special interest
> group for CAVES, much like Justin did for
> terrain?  How about Java 3D and display/viewing
> in general?  Or we could keep going on the
> regular channel.
>
> Cheers-
>
> Alex
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Discussion list for Java 3D API
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Claus Giesenberg
> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 3:56 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [JAVA3D] AW: [JAVA3D] Henry Sowizral ?
>
>
> Hi Mark !
>
> Mark, thanks for the reference. I know his report and wanted to speak
> therefore also with henry.
>
> At the moment I examine possibilities and risks for the commitment of
Java3D
> in a CAVE for an company/university.
> The company/university has the idea to implement a "Virtual Protoyping of
> Mechatronic Systems" in a CAVE. Such a realization needs however very much
> high orders since systems are supposed to be simulated here in real time.
>
> >From that every information interests me in connection with Java3D and a
> CAVE and would be pleased, if I could "nerve" you now and then with
> questions :)
>
> Best regards,
> Claus
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Discussion list for Java 3D API
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Im Auftrag von Mark Hood
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. April 2002 22:44
> An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Betreff: Re: [JAVA3D] Henry Sowizral ?
>
>
> > Date:         Wed, 17 Apr 2002 11:42:08 +0200
> > From: Claus Giesenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > In Connection with Java3D and Virtual Reality I would like to hear the
> > opinion of Henry Sowizral.
>
> You can download the artical Henry wrote with Michael Deering.  It's
called
> "The Java 3D API and Virtual Reality" under the heading "Articles" at this
> URL:
>
> http://java.sun.com/products/java-media/3D/collateral
>
> -- Mark Hood
>
>
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