I agree 100% Justin. At this point in time I hope we all push for
widespread adoption of Java 1.4 and I intend to push forward myself
promoting Java 1.4. Just yesterday the guys making SuperWaba asked me
why I wanted to use Java 1.4 rather than 1.3. {smile} Apparently I made
a convincing argument as they sent me a pre-release version that works
with 1.4.
I'm thinking what we need though is a fair number of webpages (using
HTMLConverter) that PROMPT users to download and install 1.4. Then
maybe in a year we'll finally be past a lot of these annoying problems.
What I'd like to know is if there is an easy way to make a webpage
detect the version of Java available (without the ugly HTMLConverter)
and give the user a message notifying them they lack 1.4. Sorry if I'm
ignorant on these issues but I'm relatively new to doing web type stuff
with Java.
- John Wright
Justin Couch wrote:
>
> John Wright wrote:
> > Justin,
> >
> > I'm still not convinced we can get away from HTMLConverter. To do so
> > REQUIRES that the end user already has Java 1.4 installed. And at this
> > point I've got to believe very few normal people do.
>
> That's true. However, anything prior to 1.4 means that the auto-install
> of optional packages doesn't work, period. We're stuck. We either
> require 1.4 and have everything worked as advertise, or not require it
> and not be able to run J3D/other application code in a seemless fashion.
> I'm having visions of chickens and eggs....
>
> I'm going to pick the chicken and make everyone catch up. If we played
> the "well not every browser supports it" game, then we'd all be stuck
> with JDK 1.1.4 because that's all IE supports - or if we took WinXp for
> example, we wouldn't be programming Java at all, instead, we'd be having
> C# installation issues....
>
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