Hi Paul,

Sigh,  I feel a bit quick on the trigger on this one.

If seems I had the url (after the host/dns portion) capitalized where it
shouldn't have been.

Thanks for help.

dwd

----- Original Message -----
From: "P. Flavin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: [JAVA3D] Java 3D API Jump Start


> Donald Day wrote:
>  >
>  > I recently purchased the book titled
>  >
>  >  'Java 3D API Jump Start'  (Walsh,Gehringer).
>  >
>  > In the book a URL is referenced that is claimed
>  > to have material mentioned in the text.
>  >
>  > Nav.ing to the URL
>  >
>  > "web3dbooks.com/Java......."
>  >
>  > results in a redirection to Amazon.com. ...
>  >
>  > I was hoping for just a bit more expected 'content' :^)
>  >
>
>   Some URL are below, but also see this web page
> which includes additional URLs to Selman's Book
> and Sun Java3d FlyThru Demo and the Sun VRML Loaders:
>
>   With the Sun VRML Loaders you can load & View VRML
> with "Picking", view the SceneGraph, and animated
> Web3d.org's H-Anim Avatars with Gesture Animations
> in a browser on Windows and Linux:
>
>   Java3d & VRML: Sun's FlyThru, Selman's Picking with Java3d
>   ----------------------------------------------------------
>   http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/games_with_java3d.html
>
>
> | Web3d's H-Anim & Java combine, in a new book (sort of) ...
> |
> | A new Java3d book has a Human model, it's pseudo H-Anim,
> | which is both good news & bad news.
> |
> | It's good that Web3d's H-Anim is being featured in
> | another book, but we've been Aaron Walsh -ed again,
> |  it's inferior to established methods:
> |
> | You can see a picture of it here (with the older, better method):
> |
> | "Java 3d Jump Start" Screen Capture of H-Anim "Human" Example
> | --------------------------------------------------------------
> http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/java3d_H-Anim.gif
> http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/java3d_and_vrml.html
> |
> | ( and see, copy & try some of the VRML files ):
> http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/shout3d/models/H-Anim/
>
http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/shout3d/models/H-Anim/nancy_H-Anim_x3d.w
rl
> |
> | The smaller all-red 'Cylinder Man' is the example from the book,
> | the familiar 'Gesturing Avatar' Nancy (walking) is for comparision;
> | it is a proper, VRML based H-Anim Avatar loaded & animated with
> | the Web3d VRML Loaders developed & donated by Sun, and Java3d.
> |
> |
> | New book: " Java 3D API Jump-Start " (with flawed H-Anim example)
> ----------======================
>   http://web3dbooks.com/java3d/jumpstart/welcome.html
> |
> | Source Code Examples (including H-Anim "Human" pictured above)
> |---------------------
> http://web3dbooks.com/java3d/jumpstart/J3DJumpStart.zip
> http://web3dbooks.com/java3d/jumpstart/Human.html
> http://web3dbooks.com/java3d/jumpstart/Java3DExplorer.html
> http://web3dbooks.com/java3d/jumpstart
> |
> | The Human model demonstrated in the book allows you
> | to move the arms, but it's not as fully featured as these:
> |
> | "H-Anim Avatars Animated with Java: YOU CONTROL"
> | ------------------------------------------------
> http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/H-Anim_Avatars.html
> |  * includes Chess Player:
> |
> | *** he MOVES chess pieces, you click on the board.
> | *** dials control & reflect his movements (shoulder & elbow)
> | *** works on: Windows, Linux, Macintosh ( __ The Web __ )
> |
> | "VRML Loaders for Java3d from Sun: Animate H-Anim Avatars"
> | ------------------------------ make "mov"-ies too ! with JMF
> http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/java3d_and_vrml.html
> |
> | Gait Analysis Model with Motion Capture Data (pure Java)
> |----------------------------------------------------------
> http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/character_animation.html
> |
> |
> | "People Poser of H-Anim Avatars ( VRML plug-in required )
> | ------------------------------- VRML EAI : plug-in + Java.
> http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/HAnimPoser.html
> |
> | * Load, View, Pose multiple H-Anim Avatars (sequentially)
> |
> | "Core Web3d" 'H-Anim example by Bernie Roehl, October 1999:
> | ------------ Aaron Walsh's other H-Anim, also inferior:
> http://www.coreweb3d.com/code/15/
> |
>
http://www.coreweb3d.com/code/15/Listing%2015.1%20VView%20(Example%203).java
> |
>
http://www.coreweb3d.com/code/15/Listing%2015.3%20VView%20%20(Example%204).j
ava
> |
> |
> | H-Anim and MPEG-4 are dependendent on
> | implementing technologies, of which Java3d
> | is one of the best available to us and both
> | H-Anim and MPEG-4 have been held back
> | by misperceptions, false statements, and
> | unethical conduct.
> |
> | The VRML Loaders from Sun provided
> |
> | the highest level of functionality for
> | loading VRML files into Java3d ...
> |
> | -- and still do --
> |
> | ~~ please ~~ correct me ... if any other
> | VRML loader is more capable for loading
> | VRML into Java3d and rendering it with
> | animation.
> | http://www.web3d.org/WorkingGroups/web3d-mpeg/hypermail/2001/0159.html
>
http://archives.java.sun.com/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0107&L=java3d-interest&P=30298
> http://www.vrml.org/WorkingGroups/h-anim/hypermail/2001/0195.html
> |
> |
> | False statements and unethical conduct by people
> | receiving federal funds have hurt and continue to hurt
> | those of us studying, developing, researching, and
> | working on human animation on the web ( and elsewhere )
> | with Java and Web3d's VRML standard:
> |
> https://www.fastlane.nsf.gov/servlet/showaward?award=9809209
> |
> |
> |
> | This is a lie, and it hurts Web3d, Java3d, and students in the US:
> |
> | >
> | > Hey, what sort of crack are you on?
> | >
> | > That codebase didn't even support > protos let alone H-anim.
> | >
> | >
> | > -- Justin Couch
> |
>   http://www.vrml.org/WorkingGroups/h-anim/hypermail/2001/0197.html
>   http://www.web3d.org/WorkingGroups/h-anim/hypermail/2001/0197.html
> |
> |
> | - - - - - - - -
> |
> | I would like to thank Sun for developing and donating
> | the VRML Loaders to Web3d, and in particular thank two
> | of the Sun engineers: Rick Goldberg & Doug Gehringer
> | who wrote most of the code (from what I see in the files),
> | I've been using the VRML Loaders for Java3d since the 1900's
> | and have enjoyed using them, and learned from the experience.
> |
> | Web3d's VRML and H-Anim are open standards, and both
> | Web3d and Java have large, relatively friendly,
> | active developer communities ... publishers should
> | take advantage of that fact, and when developing new books
> | they should reach out to the developer community and seek
> | our help:
> |
> | that would lead to better books than Walsh's "Core Web3d"
> | book which has serious errors: we need & deserve better books.
> |
>
http://archives.java.sun.com/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0108&L=java3d-interest&P=R6891
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>
>
> -- Paul, Java Developer & Web Animator.
> -------------------------------------------- "Imaging the Imagined:
> Modeling with Math & a Keyboard"
>
>
>
> Donald Day wrote:
>  >
>  > I recently purchased the book titled
>  >
>  > 'Java 3D API Jump Start' (Walsh,Gehringer).
>  >
>  > In the book a URL is referenced that is claimed
>  > to have material mentioned in the text.
>  >
>  > Nav.ing to the URL
>  >
>  > "web3dbooks.com/Java......."
>  >
>  > results in a redirection to Amazon.com. ...
>  >
>  > I was hoping for just a bit more expected 'content' :^)
>  >
>  >
>  > Does anyone know where this URL has moved to? ...
>  >
>  > Thanks
>  >
>  > Donald Day
>  > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  >
>
>   -- Paul,  Java Developer & Web Animator
>   -----------------------------------------------------
> "Imaging the Imagined: Modeling with Math & a Keyboard"
>
>
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