Buggy code from Yumetech in the
"New" X3D Loaders have been generating lots
of problem reports, more than I've ever
seen from the code developed from within Sun:


| X3D M6 Problems: Web3d.org's "HelloWorld.wrl"
|                  Works with Sun's VRML Loaders ...
|
http://archives.java.sun.com/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0301&L=java3d-interest&P=29553
|
| Re: X3D M6 Problems: Web3d.org's "HelloWorld.wrl"
|                     Works with Sun's VRML Loaders ...
|
|
| Xj3D M6 Release
|-----------------
| Xj3D M6 Release (38 lines) From: Alan Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Re: Xj3D M6 Release (53 lines)  From: Michael P. McCutcheon
| Re: Xj3D M6 Release (117 lines) From: Michael P. McCutcheon
| Re: Xj3D M6 Release (69 lines) From: Jack Gundrum
| Re: Xj3D M6 Release (53 lines) From: Alan Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Re: Xj3D M6 Release (48 lines) From: Alan Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Re: Xj3D M6 Release (327 lines) From: Michael P. McCutcheon
| Re: Xj3D M6 Release (34 lines) From: Alan Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Re: Xj3D M6 Release (93 lines) From: Michael P. McCutcheon
| Re: Xj3D M6 Release (46 lines) From: Justin Couch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Re: Xj3D M6 Release (98 lines) From: Michael P. McCutcheon
| Re: Xj3D M6 Release (71 lines) From: Alan Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Re: Xj3D M6 Release (100 lines) From: Michael P. McCutcheon
| Re: Xj3D M6 Release (57 lines) From: Justin Couch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Re: Xj3D M6 Release (150 lines) From: Michael P. McCutcheon
| Re: Xj3D M6 Release (82 lines) From: Justin Couch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Re: Xj3D M6 Release (112 lines) From: Michael P. McCutcheon
| Re: Xj3D M6 Release (45 lines)  From: Justin Couch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Re: Xj3D M6 Release (62 lines)  From: Michael P. McCutcheon
| Re: Xj3D M6 Release (41 lines) From: Justin Couch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Re: Xj3D M6 Release (101 lines) From: Michael P. McCutcheon
| Re: Xj3D M6 Release (74 lines) From: Justin Couch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Re: Xj3D M6 Release (125 lines) From: Michael P. McCutcheon
| Re: Xj3D M6 Release (82 lines) From: Justin Couch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Re: Xj3D M6 Release (115 lines) From: Michael P. McCutcheon
| Re: Xj3D M6 Release (46 lines) From: Alan Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Re: Xj3D M6 Release (55 lines) From: Justin Couch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Re: Xj3D M6 Release (65 lines) From: Michael P. McCutcheon
| Re: Xj3D M6 Release (81 lines) From: Michael P. McCutcheon
| Re: Xj3D M6 Release (88 lines) From: Michael P. McCutcheon
|
http://archives.java.sun.com/cgi-bin/wa?A1=ind0301&L=java3d-interest&O=T&H=0&D=0&T=1#112


If the 'new' Xj3d VRML Loaders Fail ... try Sun's VRML Loaders
--------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/vrml_loaders_working.html


Bug reports about the "new" x3D loader even spilled
into the  "comp.lang.vrml" newsgroup:

| Subject:  help ... Load Lightwave or VRML (.lwo or .wrl)
|
| Newsgroup: comp.lang.java.3d [ , comp.lang.vrml ] ...
|
| 1 P. Flavin Jan. 10, 2003
| |-2 Nehal Soni Jan. 11, 2003
| \-3 Andrea Jan. 11, 2003
|  \-4 Nehal Soni Jan. 12, 2003
|    \-5 Andrea Jan. 15, 2003
|      \-6 mahendra soni Jan. 15, 2003
|        \-7 Justin Couch Jan. 15, 2003
|          \-8 Joerg Scheurich aka MUFTI Jan. 16, 2003
|
http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&threadm=b06334%24rfq%241%40news.uni-stuttgart.de


| VRML ( .wrl ) is the best supported format for Java3d.
|
|  Sun wrote VRML loaders for Java3d used in the
| Java3d FlyThru Demo, the Nasa FastScript program,
| and I've used them, Selman used them in his Java3d
| book and Java sample programs and they have been
| used in 3d Games:
|
|
| Load VRML, play games, pick objects, run Mars a Mars Rover
----------------------------------------------------------
http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/games_with_java3d.html
http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/terrain_rendering.html
|
| You probabably should first export the
| model as VRML then try loading it with
|
| the Sun VRML Loaders ( the old Web3d.org loaders )
|
|  or the new ones, probably trying
| Sun's Java3d FlyThru first, then move on from there.
|
http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&threadm=b06334%24rfq%241%40news.uni-stuttgart.de


| I have used Xj3d and CyberVRML97 loaders.
|
| These are the only two loaders i can find for VRML97.
|
| Running the loaders, inluding the VRML browsers for
| Java3d included with them, whilst running
|
| i get a bundle of exeptions,
| out of memory errors,
| triangulation loops! etc..
|
| there are too many to mention!
|
| So far then i have had little hope in loading VRML.
|
|  I am afraid i am beginning to lose faith
|
| in loading in  java3d and java3d as a whole!!
|
| I wonder, has anyone had success in creating a fairly
| complex scene in Lightwave 7.0 (for example a kitchen)
| and exporting this as a VRML 97 file and running it with
| Java 3d successfully.
|
| I;m 100% sure it can be done,
| and some one out there has
| done so with success,
|
| Mr Flavin and Andrea are
| my only source of hope at the moment !!
|
| Can any of you do this?
| If so please let me know
|
http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&threadm=b06334%24rfq%241%40news.uni-stuttgart.de



Joerg Scheurich aka MUFTI wrote:
>>
Many in the VRML group are fanatics not of
VRML but of a particular VRML browser Producer:

Cortona Fanatics attacking Cosmo Fantatics,
Contact Fanatics attacking Cortona Fanatics,

Don't forget the "old version of Xj3D fanatics"
who attack almost all of the others 8-)

so long
MUFTI
|
http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&threadm=b064f4%241b5%241%40news.uni-stuttgart.de



I'm just happy that some at the University of Stuttgart's

Institut für Visualisierung und Interaktive Systeme

finally figured out how to get 3d on the web:


| animations with LiveGraphics3D
| ------------------------------
| | * a cube divided into three identical pyramids
| | * a ring of 12 regular tetrahedra
| |
| | [ connected 3d objects rotate when mouse is over them ]
| | [ multiple rotations at common linkages ]
| http://wwwvis.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/~kraus/LiveGraphics3D/examples/parametrized/live1.htm
|
|
Microsoft Bashing page by LiveGraphics3D Author Martin Kraus ;^)
-----------------------------------------
http://wwwvis.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/~kraus/GatesWideShut/
|
http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&selm=iNiV9.53058%242z1.38103%40twister.nyroc.rr.com


Mathematica / Wolfram Research uses Java for Web 3d
---------------------------------------------------
| LiveGraphics3D is a Java applet written by
| Martin Kraus and licensed for commercial use by
| Wolfram Research, Inc.
|
| LiveGraphics3D allows 3D solids created by Mathematica
| to be rotated interactively right in the middle of an
| HTML page.
|
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/live.html


Have you met Martin ? Could you get his autograph ?


You can animate Web3d.org's VRML based Avatars
with in a browser with the Sun VRML Loaders
if you ignore the false and fraudulent of claims
of Yumetech's Justin Couch and the publisher of
unreliable drivel: Prentice-Hall.


Nasa does Web 3d with VRML & Sun's VRML Loaders
-----------------------------------------------
http://fastscript3d.jpl.nasa.gov/vrml97.html
http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/terrain_rendering.html


See this animation of Moon orbiting Earth orbiting Sun
------------------------------------------------------ ( url above)
http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/shout3d/models/planetary_earth_moon.wrl

without the bother and risk of installing binary excutable loaders.


Great News for everyon interested in
3d that works on the web:


Microsoft Ordered to ship Java in 120 days
------------------------------------------ http://news.com.com/2100-1001-980886.html


-- Paul, Java Developer & Web Animator.
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"Imaging the Imagined: Modeling with Math & a Keyboard"

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