Hi, I'm not an expert on this field. Neither I do know what features Sun's VRML loader supports, but I think there should be some other ways to discuss things than calling each other as a liar. I also think this forum shouldn't be about personal dislikes. I subscribed for this list to learn how to use Java3D AND to learn good 3d programming practices. If I were the moderator of this list, you would be out by now... maybe Justin makes assumptions and/or misunderstand things but since I'm also working for a big company I rather do not believe all what Sun says... If calling other people as a liar is all what you can say, you should rather be quiet. That's my personal opinion.
Miklos Wagner -----Original Message----- From: ext P. Flavin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: August 28,2003 14:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [JAVA3D] some of what Justin wrote was true - but not nearly all of it. Justin Couch often writes things that are not true. That's what fraudsters do. Doug Twilleager wrote: > > No one has said that we have dropped support for Java 3D. > > And, we have made no suggestion that we are end of lifeing > the product either. > > We will support Java 3D. ... > > And, some of what Justin wrote was true - but not nearly all of it. > > There is a lot of assumtions and conjecture in his assesment. > > Once again. > > We are working on plans to allow > for the continual __ enhancement __ of Java 3D ... > | http://archives.java.sun.com/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0308&L=java3d-interest&&P=37685 We know Justin Couch makes false self-serving statmenets. We know Justin's fraudulent claims harm the Java3d community. We know Java3d is alive and well: it works well for me. Justin Couch wrote ( lying ) about the Sun VRML Loaders: | | Hey, what sort of crack are you on ? | | That codebase [ Sun's VRML Loaders for Java3d ] | didn't even support protos let alone H-anim. | | Scripting support was barely functional and the event model | was nowhere near spec compliant. | | You're bullshitting again. | http://archives.java.sun.com/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0106&L=java3d-interest&P=R31475 No. False. | [ Rick Goldberg wrote ] > This is false. | [ Rick Goldberg wrote ] > ------------- | [ Rick Goldberg wrote ] > [ referring to Justin Couch's reply above ] | [ Rick Goldberg wrote ] > | [ Rick Goldberg wrote ] > The code __ did __ support protos | [ Rick Goldberg wrote ] > before you touched it. | [ Rick Goldberg wrote ] > | [ Rick Goldberg wrote ] > Scripting support was | [ Rick Goldberg wrote ] > by the letter of the law, | [ Rick Goldberg wrote ] > and highly functional. | | [ Justin Couch wrote ] That's __ crap. __ ... | [ Justin Couch wrote ] | [ Justin Couch wrote ] I'm relying purely on reports from | [ Justin Couch wrote ] Alan [ Alan Hudson another liar at Yumetech ] | [ Justin Couch wrote ] about what did and didn't work. | | http://www.web3d.org/TaskGroups/source/hypermail/2001/0589.html http://www.web3d.org/TaskGroups/source/hypermail/2001/0591.html Justin Couch, Yumetech fraudster and liar wrote: | | | get a clue dickhead. | | Let's see "Sun's VRML97 Loaders" load ... X3D content. | | Source code only please | | - none of your Photoshop fakes that you've created | for the last couple of years. | http://archives.java.sun.com/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0301&L=java3d-interest&P=R28826 Justin Couch was lying when he wrote: " Photoshop fakes that you've created " If Justin Couch believes any are "photoshop fakes", I would like which one(s) and why: none are. Because if the Great Justin Couch Tried & Failed to write a working Java progrm with Sun's VRML Loaders he concluded that noone could ? Justin are you that far gone ? Justin's lies, fraudulent claims, slander harm himself, and Justin's lies and fraudulent claims harm our community. Justin Couch and the Yumetech fraudsters lie, harm our community with the knowledge and criminal cooperation of NIST fraudsters including Sandy Ressler a Member of Board Web3d.org with Yumetech.com's Alan Hudson. Justin Couch wrote: | | We have no desire and no intention to support old code, | that is, as of today, currently a dead project. | | If someone else wants to recommend their VRML loader, | they are free to voice their opinion on the list | the same as what we do. ... | | we feel it is a diservice to recommend to someone | | ___ crap code ___ [ the ___ Sun ___ VRML Loaders ] | | http://archives.java.sun.com/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0204&L=java3d-interest&P=R18968 | | Justin, thank you for this honest update on the state of Java3D. | | I have been an advocate of Java3D for years, but problems, | including what you describe, have forced me to look for alternatives. | http://archives.java.sun.com/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0308&L=java3d-interest&P=R43361 Justin Couch ... honest .. in that post ... ? No. No, Justin Couch is a liar. Some of what Justin wrote was true - but not nearly all of it. Nasa uses the Sun VRML Loaders for Web 3d in an open source project. Selman's excellent Java3d book uses the Sun VRML Loaders. The Halden VR Open Source Navigation Demo uses the Sun VRML Loaders. I use the Sun VRML Loaders and I know Justin Couch is a liar. Java3d animates VRML in a Web Browser with Sun's VRML Loaders ------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/vrml_loaders_working.html http://fastscript3d.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery.html http://www2.hrp.no/vr/projects/java3d/navigation http://www2.hrp.no/vr/projects/java3d/navigation/License.html NIST and NSF staff have colluded with Justin Couch's criminal fraud harming Java3d, US industry, and our community with the NIST fraudster: Sharon Laskowski, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.itl.nist.gov/iad/vu/staff/sharon.html -- Paul, Java Developer & Web Animator -------------------------------------- Imaging the Imagined: Modeling with Math & Keyboard. cc: Sharon Laskowski, criminal fraudster at the NIST. Dear Sharon ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ), Why have you and Sandy Ressler colluded with Justin's frauds when you, Ressler, and Couch know your conduct is criminal and your conduct betrays the mission and mandate of the NIST. Lies and fraud are not the "Standards" the US National Institute of Standards and Technology should be encouraging, and the lies and fraud damage the US technology you are paid to promote. =========================================================================== To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "signoff JAVA3D-INTEREST". For general help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "help". =========================================================================== To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "signoff JAVA3D-INTEREST". For general help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "help".
