How much of an issue was Java's speed when it first appeared? :)
On Sep 4, 2:24 pm, Michael Neale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think invokedynamic can help, but with dynamic languages, they will
> be able to approach statically compiled ones - certainly for long
> running server apps they could get as fast I think, in the long run
> (as the JITting kicks in).
>
> Lots of research has been and is being done in this area, so I would
> think over time the perfomance difference would become a non issue,
> but at the moment, like you say, it certainly is an issue.
>
> On Sep 4, 11:42 am, Alan Kent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I was doing some web surfing trying to find information on Groovy, Scala
> > etc from a performance perspective. I hear lots of Groovy people saying
> > "its the next generation replacement for Java" sort of statements, but
> > all the performance benchmarks I have come across show code similar to
> > the Java replacement to be many times slower. Scala seems to do a lot
> > better as it was statically typed. I can see Groovy being useful as a
> > scripting language (top level gluing things together). Performance-wise
> > I cannot see it ever being a serious Java replacement. Useful along
> > side? Yes. Replacement? No.
>
> > I was wondering what experiences or knowledge others had in this area?
> > Is the performance difference because the JVM was optimized for static
> > languages? Is adding "Invoke Dynamic" to the JVM going to fix this
> > problem, or just get it closer to Java performance? That is, is the
> > performance penalty fixable? I assume all the dynamically typed
> > languages will suffer from the same basic problem.
>
> > Personally it feels like Groovy is a great scripting language to use
> > with Java, but as soon as someone starts claiming its the clear
> > replacement to Java I start to tune out.
>
> > Alan
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