I'm not sure what you mean by that (ie, do you mean it was, or it wasn't) I recall that "Starting Java..." was a cause of much groaning when Netscape 2 came out and I met my first applets :)
Even now "Java is Slow" is the reaction from most rank and file people who aren't Java people, for example: Most of the PHP dev & unix admin team at my last job, a Windows sysadmin I was talking to whilst I was troubleshooting a MS-SQL connectivity issue with JDBC (last week) and the business owner of my current project (until we worked hard to resolve their concerns). Its a conversation I get tired of having. *sigh* On Sep 4, 3:17 pm, Christian Catchpole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How much of an issue was Java's speed when it first appeared? :) > > On Sep 4, 2:24 pm, Michael Neale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I think invokedynamic can help, but with dynamic languages, they will > > be able to approach statically compiled ones - certainly for long > > running server apps they could get as fast I think, in the long run > > (as the JITting kicks in). > > > Lots of research has been and is being done in this area, so I would > > think over time the perfomance difference would become a non issue, > > but at the moment, like you say, it certainly is an issue. > > > On Sep 4, 11:42 am, Alan Kent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I was doing some web surfing trying to find information on Groovy, Scala > > > etc from a performance perspective. I hear lots of Groovy people saying > > > "its the next generation replacement for Java" sort of statements, but > > > all the performance benchmarks I have come across show code similar to > > > the Java replacement to be many times slower. Scala seems to do a lot > > > better as it was statically typed. I can see Groovy being useful as a > > > scripting language (top level gluing things together). Performance-wise > > > I cannot see it ever being a serious Java replacement. Useful along > > > side? Yes. Replacement? No. > > > > I was wondering what experiences or knowledge others had in this area? > > > Is the performance difference because the JVM was optimized for static > > > languages? Is adding "Invoke Dynamic" to the JVM going to fix this > > > problem, or just get it closer to Java performance? That is, is the > > > performance penalty fixable? I assume all the dynamically typed > > > languages will suffer from the same basic problem. > > > > Personally it feels like Groovy is a great scripting language to use > > > with Java, but as soon as someone starts claiming its the clear > > > replacement to Java I start to tune out. > > > > Alan --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
