IBM was behind porting VA Software's SourceForge Enterprise Edition to use
the DB2 database back in 2002-2003. With time, this application stack was
ported from being a PHP application to a J2EE app. Many of the features that
Jazz has, were already in it and I guess SF Enterprise did get used
internally at IBM.

Take a look at the feature set of an open-source fork of the original
SourceForge called GForce at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GForge

With its vested interests in the Eclipse and the Rational platform, it
probably did not make sense for them to create something that was completely
web based and would have required an ASP model or a concurrent user model to
make money out of such a platform. SF Enterprise could have easily been
bought up by IBM, but instead, CollabNet acquired the same. Web based
collaboration for development and project management was something they
started with, but ran off-course.

I had helped a colleague of mine write a couple of Eclipse plugins to
connect to the SF Enterprise server whose primary aim was to fetch SF
Enterprise artifacts like defects, issues, etc., right into the IDE. This
too was sponsored by VA Software, but no points for guessing as to who was
guiding this philosophy. The whole XMLRPC based interaction with the SF
Enterprise backend did suck at times, but it worked, as writing XMLRPC
clients in Java was pretty much a breeze and it did not care if the server
was in PHP or Java.

The podcast might have sounded like a marketing pitch, but I think keeping
one's eyes and ears open to what the overall industry is doing, never hurts.
I would never invest into the Rational/Jazz behemoth at any cost. Be simple,
get out and look at all the fantastic open-source tools and pick your
poison. Free poison is better than buying some.

Regards


On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 7:42 AM, Alan Kent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Certainly was a bit of marketing in it, but I still found it very useful
> to get an overview of what Jazz was and how they saw the world.  (Just
> as I value people's opinions and views on this mailing list.)  So I
> thought it was a valuable podcast.  Clearly the interviewers were asking
> questions and giving a chance for response rather than their normal
> internal dissecting discussions that we love.
>
> I just wanted to encourage the Posse to keep up with such interviews
> occasionally - although episodes where they can get their teeth into the
> topic without risk of offending people (at least too much) are more fun.
>
> Alan
>
> >
>


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