BoD wrote:
> How about saying f*ck to backwards compatibility? New projects use the 
> new (new) reified collections, and old code stays with the current 
> erasure system. And old and new code don't talk to each other. I could 
> live with that!
>   
And some of us have millions of lines of code and hundreds of third 
party libraries that have grown over the past decade that all needs to 
talk together -- and still need Java to move forward, just without 
marooning all of this or creating "new" and "old" ghettos.

--
Jess Holle
> Frederic Simon wrote:
>   
>> What Alex Buckley said on Java7 BOF:
>> There is an experimental project doing reification and the mess of 
>> mixed types: Type with no generics, Type with erased generics, and 
>> Type with reified generics... Generate a Big pile of typing mud :)
>>
>> What I say:
>> I don't know what is needed for the JVM to manage reified type (may be 
>> nothing?), and that's needed for sure.
>> We need to have a good reified language that has clean API (mainly 
>> collections) with enforced generics, which is not Java. And then the 
>> integration type mud is manegeable (still hard but doable).
>> In Java itself it's going to be a nightmare!
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 3:19 AM, Mark Derricutt <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>     Was anything said a Devoxx over the reification of generics in
>>     Java 7 at all?  I do so hope that makes it in...
>>
>>
>>     On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Alan Kent <[email protected]
>>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>         I think having generics is a big step forward over not having
>>         generics - I use them a lot too.  Just avoiding casts for
>>         every ArrayList get call is a big win.
>>
>>
>>     -- 
>>     "It is easier to optimize correct code than to correct optimized
>>     code." -- Bill Harlan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> http://www.jfrog.org/
>> http://freddy33.blogspot.com/
>> http://nothingisinfinite.blogspot.com/
>>
>>     
>
> >
>
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