How about saying f*ck to backwards compatibility? New projects use the 
new (new) reified collections, and old code stays with the current 
erasure system. And old and new code don't talk to each other. I could 
live with that!

BoD

Frederic Simon wrote:
> What Alex Buckley said on Java7 BOF:
> There is an experimental project doing reification and the mess of 
> mixed types: Type with no generics, Type with erased generics, and 
> Type with reified generics... Generate a Big pile of typing mud :)
>
> What I say:
> I don't know what is needed for the JVM to manage reified type (may be 
> nothing?), and that's needed for sure.
> We need to have a good reified language that has clean API (mainly 
> collections) with enforced generics, which is not Java. And then the 
> integration type mud is manegeable (still hard but doable).
> In Java itself it's going to be a nightmare!
>
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 3:19 AM, Mark Derricutt <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     Was anything said a Devoxx over the reification of generics in
>     Java 7 at all?  I do so hope that makes it in...
>
>
>     On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Alan Kent <[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>         I think having generics is a big step forward over not having
>         generics - I use them a lot too.  Just avoiding casts for
>         every ArrayList get call is a big win.
>
>
>     -- 
>     "It is easier to optimize correct code than to correct optimized
>     code." -- Bill Harlan
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> http://www.jfrog.org/
> http://freddy33.blogspot.com/
> http://nothingisinfinite.blogspot.com/
>
> >

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