I would like to hear a Rich Hickey interview, and some clojure love generally on the posse exactly *because* of the brain shift that Mark raises.
By contrast -Fan, seems like a nice tasteful modern language -but it doesn't push any boundaries now does it? Java programmers don't *need* to know about Fan. Clojure, on the other hand gets in your face and says: "do you think shared state concurrency is workable? -well do ya, punk?" -which is a super-important question for us all to think about right now Clojure then says "ok, immutability -let's get serious -how can we embrace immutability, whilst appearing to be stateful, and without copying everything??" -which is another good question now that you mention it clojure Next clojure says "are you waiting for an STM magic bullet? -well you might want to try this STM -it isn't magic, so it might actually work" All these things strike me as really important for Java programmers -even if they will never, ever write an s-expression (and lets face it -they probably won't). This is why clojure should, imho, feature on the posse. Finally: my house seems to have a lot of ants -clojure has shown me the importance of killing them before they can drop pheromones pf --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
