Neil: I appreciate your comments, I'm no expert in Scala or Clojure; I'm still trying (in the extremely limited time I have for this subject) to get my head wrapped around both Scala and Clojure and if I could ever find a *practical* use for either.
>>On Jan 19, 2:03 am, Neil Bartlett <[email protected]> wrote: > I disagree that Clojure's support for concurrency is "much better" > than Scala's. It has very good support for concurrency, but so does > Scala. And it goes without saying, both are FAR better than Java. I should disclose that I am framing my (limited) viewpoint from the following discussion. There are some great points in support of Scala if you scroll down past the article in the comment section. It would seem that Clojure is "much better" for parallel programming which has a basis in concurrency: http://www.codecommit.com/blog/scala/is-scala-not-functional-enough > For me -- and probably many other JVM programmers -- there are two big > reasons not to use Clojure: dynamic typing and Lisp syntax (or lack-of- > syntax). Of course it's a matter of taste, but I think Scala is more > to the taste of recovering Java programmers thanClojure. "dynamic typing" - I sure like Python, what a breath of fresh air from C++ that is. I like static typing for safety, otherwise I lean on the side of dynamic; it's my understanding that Clojure takes care of type safety so the reasons for avoiding it are less of a concern. "Lisp syntax" - hmm, okay I will concede your point for the mainstream programmer, but then again, I cannot see either Scala or Clojure ever becoming "mainstream"...not at least as long as Java/C++/C# remain at the top of the dice listings. I'm a lisper so I'm leaning towards Clojure for that reason along with it's *appearance* of better support for parallelism, howevery I'm much more interested in Scala than Groovy, JRuby, or Jython so far as JVM targeted languages go. Jython makes sense for all the reasons the JVM makes sense considering all of the useful industrial Python already in the wild. > Nevertheless, a show on it would certainly be interesting. It would be > great if the posse could get Rich Hickey on for an interview. Yes, I know the posse is strongly bias for Scala, iPhone (as a platform), all things Apple, and California weather--but it would be nice to have a constructive debate (discovery of usage domains) between these two new great tools. Thanks for your reply, I'm interested in learning more about both of these languages through differentiation. - e --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
