Aren't you worried more by a video call where the other party has a
funny look on their face and one of their shoulders is moving?

On Jan 29, 7:17 am, Hairless_ape <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ohhhh this definitely warrants Dick Wall room punishment.
>
> You cannot question Dick Wall's predictions. He said make it so,
> why aren't you out there making it work? Shame on you!
>
> "We don't need video because it is far too restrictive"
>
> Actually we do. I'm quite uncomfortable with the fact that
> people I talk to could in theory be wanking! How many times
> have you talked to someone only to have this nagging feeling
> of their mind being somewhere else(think of Thor Norbye and his
> suppossed "coding" during podcasts).
> Well with video all that goes away and once again you can have a
> normal conversation.
>
> On Jan 28, 9:48 pm, Reinier Zwitserloot <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Dick suggested that there will be an iPhone gadget to bend the light
> > around to the camera in #227. Was that a joke? That is completely
> > ridiculous.
>
> > Nobody cares about video calling. Here in the Netherlands it worked
> > technically, it didn't have any extra costs (other than, at the time,
> > a relatively expensive phone), and I had one, and so did a few of my
> > friends. We never video called. They never video called. There was
> > some research that asked everyone with a video phone if they even
> > cared. Nobody did (had the phone for the nice big display, not for the
> > video calling feature).
>
> > This makes sense: We're all used to the concept of a phone call. We
> > don't need video because it is far too restrictive (have to LOOK at
> > it, which, even if everyone walked around with a headset or the
> > quality of speakerphones was -phenomenally good-, is still annoying.
> > People call while walking, etcetera) for the meager benefits (attempt
> > to see emotion through pixellated grainy laggy video, joy!). In
> > particular, the main thing it tries to solve (convey emotion) is
> > already done quite adequately by voice. We already subconsciously
> > exaggerate our voice-based emotional cues when we make a phone call -
> > we (modern man) has interned the ability completely already.
>
> > A video conference call is somewhat different - you're really sitting
> > down for that one, and you are prepared. Therein lies the key: With
> > notebooks and subnotebooks already near ubiquitous, and the notebook
> > data revolution coming any day now (for you iPhone owners that did the
> > right thing and you jailbroke it - welcome to the revolution! Just
> > download pdanet and you're on your way!) - that's the future of video
> > calling.
>
> > Mark my words: Video calling using mobile phones is a solution in
> > search of a problem. It'll never become popular.
>
> > I'm not sure if apple has consciously decided that video calling is a
> > crock when they designed the iPhone, or if they went for the slightly
> > less definitive 'meh, we'll wait until someone else makes this work'.
> > Note also how absolutely nobody is complaining that iPhones have no
> > front cam.
>
> > Either way, using glass or plastic to warp the camera around would
> > require a giant and very expensive widget, whereas your average simple
> > webcam costs maybe 5 bucks. Assuming you can pump the video data into
> > the iPod connector and the restrictive iPhone SDK allows you to get at
> > this data, a cheap dongle that contains its own camera would be far
> > more likely. That's presuming that people care about video calling -
> > which they don't.
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