:D Well, sorry about the way it sounds on the mail, but if you follow the link you'll get to a blog entry that try to explain my own lack of social skill :) Following Dianne's comment (and strong support for country skying), I think I'll skip the downhill this :)
Already enjoying my week ! On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Dianne Marsh <[email protected]> wrote: > > Fred, Fred, Fred. Don't you know, by now, not to generalize? [trying > really hard to resist making a joke about MALE Java developer social skills > ... oops, that's uncontrollable] > > I'll see you guys there. I hope that at least one other woman joins the > Roundup in spite of Fred's comments. We can trip him on skis or push him > into a snow bank. > > Dianne > > Frederic Simon wrote: > > I should say: > 1) 70:1 is just because the JavaPosse limits to 70... Can do more :D > 2) Java is the new COBOL, and there is NO women in COBOL except it's > creator: *http://tinyurl.com/thmz2* > 3) Looking at her, and from my experience, good Java female developer have > a tendency to lack social skills: *http://tinyurl.com/8yg8wv* > > Joke aside, I think the cold and the intimidating effect of 70 male geeks > does not help female recruitment for the JavaPosse Roundup. > > Anyway, I'm really happy to see you again this year. > > On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:45 AM, Dianne Marsh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Dear Women Java Posse Listeners, >> >> Are you out there? Am I the only one? Can't be true. >> >> I'm wondering why no other women Java programmers have attended the >> Java Posse Roundup in years past. This year, I suspect that the >> Roundup will sell out, at 70 attendees, but once again, I may be the >> only female attendee. Am I to believe that our numbers are 70:1 in >> Java development? Or is it that the remote location for the Roundup >> (in Crested Butte, CO) preselects against women? Or is March just a >> bad time? Something else? >> >> Once again, I will have (two) bathrooms to myself at the conference >> location. When sessions are recorded, it will be obvious when I speak >> up because mine will be the only female voice on the recording. And >> once again, I will wonder why there are no other women at this top- >> notch technical event. The event really is quite welcoming to all, >> and an amazing experience. I've learned a lot at each one of the 2 >> previous events, and I'm really looking forward to this one. The >> other attendees are very fun, engaging, and interesting conversations >> are to be had everywhere. >> >> The .NET conferences and Python conferences that I've attended have >> had other women. I've heard that the Ruby conference has a nice >> following of women. So why not Java? Is JavaOne similarly under- >> represented? >> >> If it's the skiing, don't let that stop you! Honestly, many of the >> men don't ski either! I honestly dislike downhill skiing. Each year, >> I've found a group of people who wanted to learn to x-c ski and we've >> gone out together on the trails. And last year, one afternoon, I >> stayed back to work on some code with some of the other attendees. If >> you're worried that it's a conference as an excuse to ski, it's not >> like that at all ... instead people are together (by choice) pretty >> much from 8 am til 10 or 11 pm each day, with VERY little of that time >> on the ski hill. Honestly, at other conferences, I've seen more time >> spent at bars than people spend skiing at the Java Posse Roundup. >> >> Groups form even when sessions are not ongoing and conversations or >> coding happens. The evening lightning talks are open to everyone >> (including spouses). It's really an incredible learning event. >> >> I have to believe that there are female Java Posse listeners out >> there. I just wish I understood why you don't attend conferences! >> Please comment (or email me). And if you're a man with a female Java >> programmer coworker, feel free to comment as well. I'm curious ... . >> >> Better yet: join us. March 3-6 in Crested Butte, with March 2 as an >> optional Alternative Languages day. >> >> Dianne >> >> > > > -- > http://www.jfrog.org/ > http://freddy33.blogspot.com/ > http://nothingisinfinite.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > > -- http://www.jfrog.org/ http://freddy33.blogspot.com/ http://nothingisinfinite.blogspot.com/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
