My daughter is only 7, but I have shown her squeak <http://squeak.org/> (a
nice smalltalk environment) and Alice <http://www.alice.org/>. I remember
reading somewhere that Alice is targeted at getting girls interested in
programming, but I can't find any reference to that on the site now. My son
does seem to show more interest in computers and programming so far (iWeb
and a bit of Ruby) but that may be more because he is 9.

I am currently one of two Java developers. The other one is the lead and is
a woman. In probably half my jobs/contracts over the past 16 years, about
half my managers or project leads have been women. Oddly, a much lower
percentage of my co-workers have been women.

Lloyd


On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Dianne Marsh <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> So now that I have at least SOME people's attention on the gender thing,
> I'm wondering if I can engage those of you who are dads ... or uncles
> ... or influential adults.  One of my employees said that she was
> strongly influenced into computer science by her parents.  There's no
> reason to limit that to moms.  I bet that the dads are equally baffled
> about why their daughters might not be interested in computer science.
> So let's get the dads involved.
>
> What can you do?  This is a smart group of people.  Can we brainstorm a
> bit?  Women tend to view this as "our problem", but why?  We don't have
> all of the answers, just because we're women.  And face it. If ALL of
> the women developers worked to impact their daughters' decisions of a
> profession, we STILL wouldn't make a very big dent.  You GUYS, OTOH, ...
> you have NUMBERS in your favor!  I think that if we want to increase the
> number of girls in CS (and other math/science), you're our best hope.
>
> BTW, this idea of getting the dads to influence their daughters was one
> of my employee's.  She said that she was strongly influenced by her
> parents, and brought up the fact that DADS are the ones that can make
> the difference in a male-dominated profession.  Turns out her mom is a
> software developer (and only 2 years older than me, but that makes me
> wince, so we don't usually talk about that).
>
> So ... any chance you guys want to brainstorm a bit on how we might be
> able to influence a 50/50 gender mix at the [Java?] Posse Roundup 2025?
> ;-)
>
> Dianne
>
>
>
> Robert Fischer wrote:
> > It's not just baffling to you.  Women not being attracted to science,
> math, and software development
> > has been a huge issue since people started paying attention.  But despite
> huge amounts of money
> > being thrown at the problem and all kinds of systems intended to
> support/encourage women in that
> > direction, general adoption remains low.  Why that's the case is baffling
> to everyone, and people's
> > answers to those questions tend to have less to do with evidence and more
> to do with people's
> > pre-conceived paradigm on gender issues.
> >
> > ~~ Robert.
> >
>
>
>
> >
>

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