No worries from me, Peter.  See the other thread I started (Computers for Toddlers) to avoid confusion, but I didn't "feel hijacked".  Nor did I care.

Dianne

Peter Becker wrote:
Sorry if anyone feels that I hijacked something, but it's certainly not
the way I think about it.

For me newsgroups, mailing lists and some forums (those that allow
threading) can have conversations that fork into multiple topics and I
believe that's a Good Thing (tm). If that happens I prefer to rename the
branch in which it happened, which does not imply that the original
topic should be stopped at all, it is just meant to provide a cleaner
separation of the different branches.

If that annoys people here I'll stop. Maybe it's too Usenet for Web
2.0 :-) Somehow people seem to be used to a flat world view nowadays,
which I believe is sad but I'm willing to accept that.

  Peter


On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 05:15 -0800, Jason Waring wrote:
  
Peter, why did you change the subject of this discussion? Dianne has
raised an important issue, and we should respect her right to not have
it be hijacked!

On Feb 20, 6:25 pm, Peter Becker <[email protected]> wrote:
    
[was Re: [The Java Posse] Re: An open letter to women Java Posse
listeners (and their coworkers) ...]



On Thu, 2009-02-19 at 23:09 +0000, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
      
On 19 Feb 2009, at 11:09, Peter Becker wrote:
        
I'd be very happy for my daughter to pick up some scientific or IT-
type
work, but so far I haven't been too successful. Maybe it is because
she's not even 3 yet :-) But she got her first computer around her
second birthday -- not a Barbie one but an old Pentium II with KDE on
it, icons scaled up until they are really big and all mouse buttons
mapped to button 1. She likes watching me use it, but she doesn't want
to interact with it herself.
          
Check out tuxpaint.  My young daughter found that quite entertaining  
for 10 minutes or so (which is a pretty good stretch for her).  Plus,  
the stencil library comes with back-back (or "ducks" to you and me).
        
   http://www.tuxpaint.org/
        
Comes integrated in GCompris, which is quite nice, too. And we've been
using Childsplay -- she likes the memory game and the jigsaw puzzles.

GCompris:http://gcompris.net/
Childsplay:http://www.schoolsplay.org/

One nice hack is to map .flv to a script running VLC in full-screen mode
and close on finish. That allows dumping lots of Youtube videos onto the
desktop with some Sesame Street, Wiggles or whatever else she currently
likes. FLV playback pushes the poor old box to its limits, though -- it
works, but not that well.

      
Sorry, it's not Java, but it is good, free software
        
To bring it back on topic: I sometimes wonder what I could do with
JavaFX for this type of application. I'm imagining something that's
constantly in fullscreen (Tuxpaint can be annoying with that since it
doesn't even allow maximizing). Menu screens should be nothing but a big
grid of buttons, some leading to games, some to media playback. And they
should be easy to operate with the keyboard, e.g. by using letters of
the alphabet, displayed in some big font on each of the buttons and to
be used without modifier keys.

But not on that machine. :-)

  Peter

      




  


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