On Mar 25, 2009, at 5:09 PM, Michael Neale wrote:

>
> yeah the impression I get from jigsaw is that it is really there for
> platform modularity - all the way to the metal, which is critical for
> a whole lot of JRE issues now and in the future.
>
> Quite a different aim to OSGi (in fact you could use anything and
> totally ignore the jigsaw stuff and just enjoy the benefits of a
> trimmer platform).
>
> In generally I don't like the "do something from scratch versus using
> what is out there and proven" which seems common in JSRs, but in this
> case, it seems that it is such a deep thing that it is worth it.

And indeed, I think that is why the previous JSRs were scrapped. They  
were too general and were revinventing a big wheel. Jigsaw is very  
focused and trim.

>
>
> On Mar 26, 5:36 am, Joshua Marinacci <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Jigsaw is the modularity planned to be built into the JDK.  It's
>> purpose in life is to make the JRE modular.  No other modules system,
>> including OSGI, has the ability to do that because they simply can't
>> work at a low enough level to make things work (such as JVM
>> changes).   However, nothing in the proposal prevents other modules
>> systems from existing or from interoperating with Jigsaw. In fact, I
>> fully expect to see lots of new module systems, designed to address
>> different needs, built on top of Jigsaw. (Easy Maven integration  
>> would
>> be nice, for example).
>>
>> I have no comment on the IBM/HP/Oracle/Apple/McDonalds rumors.
>>
>> - J
>>
>> On Mar 25, 2009, at 10:29 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> http://neilbartlett.name/blog/2009/03/25/using-suns-jigsaw-may-get-yo 
>>> ...
>>
>>> jigsaw is core to Java 7 isn't it?  If this guy is right, seems like
>>> Java 7 is going to be completely reworked if an acquisition happens.
>>> I think he's wrong of course.
> >


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