On Mar 26, 2009, at 5:57 AM, Michael Kimsal wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Joshua Marinacci <[email protected]> > wrote: > > On Mar 24, 2009, at 9:23 AM, Michael Kimsal wrote: > >> To whatever extent RIA tech (Silverlight, Flex, JavaFX, whatever) >> forces people to upgrade rather than offering them a 'less than >> current but still functional' experience, it'll have a hard sell >> against the growing functionality of 'native to the browser' >> JavaScript and associated toolkits. Everyone should watch out for >> browsers that might start bundling some JavaScript toolkits >> directly. If my browser came with basic jquery, dojo, etc, and >> could only have to dynamically load the extra pieces it needed, >> this would be even more of a reason to write for that platform >> rather than looking at the RIA space. > > No matter what technology you are using extra code must be > downloaded to support your application. The code might be a > javascript library or a JavaFX jar, but it's still something extra. > That's why caching is important and why JavaFX hitting 100m > downloads of the runtime is important. It means that there are 100m > desktops that can run your JavaFX app without having to download the > runtime. (100m was in feb, i'm sure it's 200m+ by now). > > > I think that may have been misunderstood. I'm suggesting that > browser makers might actually bundle the javascript libraries with > the browser directly, such that no downloading of anything extra > (other than your app's js code) would be required. That would (or > will?) be one more strike against external RIA tech. "YUI is > already bundled with FF4" or something like that would cause a much > bigger uptake in JS-based apps.
Except that you would then still need to download a browser update. And when 2/3rds of the web still uses IE that's a challenge. One way or another a download is required (unless you get your runtime pre bundled with 9 of the top 10 PC OEMs) - J > > > > > -- > Michael Kimsal > http://jsmag.com - for javascript developers > http://groovymag.com - for groovy developers > 919.827.4724 > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
