On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:20 AM, Joshua Marinacci <[email protected]> wrote:
> Okay.. seriously dudes! I've been hearing this request over and over. Of > all of the things missing from the Java platform (and they are many, believe > me), why is *tail recursion* the make or break feature for the future of the > Java platform? Seriously?! Tail Recursion?! Not fixing applets or > modularity or starting up 18 times faster, but tail recursion!? WTH! > No Josh, not tail recursion, ->tail calls<- :) And regarding Applets, they were abandoned... people moved on... :( > > On Jun 16, 2009, at 11:08 AM, Viktor Klang wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Joshua Marinacci <[email protected]>wrote: > >> >> which is indeed sad. :) >> >> In our defense, Sun loves developers because we are developers. This >> has strengths and weaknesses. We are trying to leverage the strengths >> and address the weaknesses. That's one of the reasons we want more >> feedback from you on the Java Store. As developers, what do you want >> out of the system? How can we make your life easier so that you can >> make great apps and ship them to the world? > > > Reified generics, tailcall instruction, closures... > Sorry had to take the opportunity! > :) > > >> >> >> - J >> >> On Jun 16, 2009, at 10:55 AM, Casper Bang wrote: >> >> > >> > You realize of course, to many of us developers, you appear to >> > represent Sun's entire marketing department as well? ;) >> > >> > /Casper >> > >> > On 16 Jun., 19:49, Joshua Marinacci <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Speaking as a fellow Sun lifer, I whole heartedly agree. Sun is a >> >> great place for some people. I've been here for four and a half year >> >> and have worked in 3 different departments. Even as a member of the >> >> JavaFX team I've worked on many different pieces. If you ever get >> >> bored there's always some other cool project you can join (like the >> >> Java Store), and you are surrounded by other great engineers with >> >> good >> >> ideas. Plus, I get to work remote 100% of the time from Oregon, so I >> >> can't really complain. >> >> >> >> On Jun 16, 2009, at 10:42 AM, Joe Nuxoll (Java Posse) wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Tor is a "lifer" at Sun, and he *loves* it. It is the perfect job >> >>> for >> >>> him, and not a harsh comment at all! >> >> >> >>> - Joe >> >> >> >>> On Jun 12, 7:05 am, Augusto <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>> hahaha ... the "incident". >> >> >> >>>> Yeah, we almost lost Tor in Part 4 @ 5:25 >> >> >> >>>> BTW, I felt you guys were kind of harsh on Tor ... Joe called him a >> >>>> "lifer" at Sun? Let him have his fun, he does get to work on cool >> >>>> tools :-) >> >> >> >>>> On Jun 12, 8:29 am, bigbenny3 <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >>>>> I've uploaded a five-part series of the JavaPosse BoF at JavaOne, >> >>>>> 2009. The first two parts of the series are, charitably, >> >>>>> unprofessional. The third, fourth and fifth parts are better, with >> >>>>> the >> >>>>> fourth containing Tor's infamous 'incident.' >> >> >> >>>>> There were others who were recording video, and I hope they upload >> >>>>> their content, especially the beginning, to add to the links >> >>>>> below. >> >> >> >>>>> Part 1 of 5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkT_4cTtNLY >> >>>>> Part 2 of 5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubfOpRch5zI >> >>>>> Part 3 of 5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6xCyOHH8G4 >> >>>>> Part 4 of 5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLXbdJHpxJY >> >>>>> Part 5 of 5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GH8iiRsiko >> >> >> >>>>> Thanks to the 'Posse for a great time at J1 !! Thanks to >> >>>>> Atlassian >> >>>>> for the beer! >> >> >> >>>>> Ben Leadholm >> > > >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Viktor Klang > Scala Loudmouth > > > > > > > -- Viktor Klang Scala Loudmouth --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
