On Jun 28, 12:27 am, Chris Adamson <[email protected]> wrote:

> OSGi advocacy-by-accusation... and still virtually no meaningful apps
> to prove that this stuff is important, viable, or even worth caring
> about.
>

Pretty much every major Java app server is built on OSGi now. I'd say
they were meaningful to Java programmers :)

I know that Dick (and probably the rest of the posse) has had enough
of the discussion (can't blame them) however I suspect that an
interview with people from some of the major projects who are using
OSGi would provide more insight into why it is (or isn't) "important,
viable or worth caring" about than discussions with people from the
OSGi alliance or Jigsaw.

>
> I'm not picking a fight... I opted out of the Java world a long time
> ago.  I think it's just sad how you guys are self-destructing.  Java
> could have been so much more.
>

The irony is that for me Java was pretty much a necessary evil a few
years ago, I needed to know it for employment purposes, but I'd much
rather have programmed in something else. However OSGi and things like
iPOJO (it's very nice, check it out at 
http://felix.apache.org/site/apache-felix-ipojo.html)
and especially the possibility of using them with something like Scala
have made the Java platform really compelling again. Different strokes
I guess.

- Steve

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