Great to hear Josh. Of all the "todo" things, I think the user
experience regarding how is starts up, how it installs if needed, will
make or break this. The rest of it is certainly great, would be a
shame for it to go to waste for the "last mile" !

On Jun 28, 4:51 pm, Joshua Marinacci <[email protected]> wrote:
> yes, we are all working on the end user experience. We are looking at  
> the whole stack from memory usage to excess class loading to graphics  
> performance to getting the new plugin out there. (not to mention the  
> Java Store). more good things are on the way.
> -=j
> On Jun 27, 2009, at 11:23 PM, Michael Neale wrote:
>
>
>
> > I love what bits I have seen of JavaFX that have worked well. I am
> > with Joe - the key is now the experience for end users (including me)
> > on all the browsers: firstly, does everyone have it? if not, how  
> > quick/
> > idiot proof is it to be up and running. I still noticed too many of
> > the demos were asking me to "trust" them (and using certs my system
> > didn't really recognise). So its not FX itself (which is 110% awesome)
> > but everything else.
>
> > Which brings us back to the modularity issue... (as I am guessing
> > modularising the VM itself will help with the above somewhat.
>
> > On Jun 28, 11:07 am, Joshua Marinacci <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> give it a try. The browser plugin has made huge strides in the past
> >> year.
>
> >>> re Joshua: yeah I like that idea. Years ago I wanted to do that with
> >>> applets and "live connect" but it wasn't easy, I do like the promise
> >>> of it now - but the problem is its still a promise, its a risk to  
> >>> take
> >>> over "vanilla" web things as they are now (as clunky as they may
> >>> seem).
>
> >>> On Jun 28, 9:16 am, Augusto <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> On the subject of HTML 5 driven apps like Google Wave (didn't  
> >>>> know it
> >>>> required html 5 until this last podcast). The pirate bay is  
> >>>> releasing
> >>>> their answer to YouTube via the VideoBay.
>
> >>>> Interestingly they will only support HTML 5 browsers and up, so I
> >>>> guess there's more than just Google already itching to support the
> >>>> new
> >>>> HTML standard instead of other RIA technologies. Interesting.
>
> >>>>http://pinstack.blogspot.com/2009/06/video-bay-launching-with-
> >>>> html-5-...
>
> >>>>http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/06/27/2018242/The-Video-Bay-Now-
> >>>> In-...
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