Viktor Klang wrote: > >From what I've heared from sources in the industry whom I > unfortunately cannot name, developing for J2ME is less pleasant than > stabbing yourself in the face with a sharp and rusty object repeatedly. > > So basically: It doesn't matter how many installations there are, very > few people like to stab themselves in the face. Even when they're paid > to do so.
Viktor, this is a well known fact and there's no need to refer "source in the industry that you can't name" :-) I could quote tons of person and it would just suffice to have a look at conference presentations. The people I'm thinking of are fans of Android for the reason we're saying. But the same persons I know are also saying that TODAY if you want to go with a pervasive product, you'd better to stab your face with JME rather than stab your face multiple times with different, proprietary technologies. The point, as Joshua said, is that TODAY Android is only a very small fraction of the market. Since it's pushed by Google, it can do very well, but - again - I'm not talking of trends and predictions; it's an argument that I'm not interested of. I posted in this discussion only to argue against Casper's assertion of JME popularity. Casper, I can argue pretty well and in a few words: it's just ridiculous to assert that a thing is popular when 95% of the platforms (and thus people) have never seen it. In my part of the world (and in my country there are more cell phones that inhabitants) Nokia is one of the most common brands, while I've still to see a single person owning an Android phone. Now, even though every Android owners compulsively used Android applications and only a fraction of Nokia users run a Java game, Java would be still the most popular. Of course there's a specific ratio where parity could break in favour of Android. But you, Casper, brought the idea of counting effective uses instead of installations, and it's up to you to provide numbers. Otherwise your statement is just as pointless than Jonathan's or James'. MIDP is stale? But we have JavaFX for Mobile. What? Yes, it runs only on a couple of devices: but it doesn't seem much less devices than Android. Of course, things could diverge pretty soon, and how much is strictly related on the power ratio Sun vs Google. But I'd better say Oracle/Sun vs Google, and at this point there are so main unknown variables that the discussion, now, doesn't make any sense. I don't think we have to wait too long, by the end of the year I think we will able to guess how things will evolve: Oracle doesn't take compromises, either they shut down JavaFX (and then the discussion is over), or they push it seriously, and they have the power to compete with Google. -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - "We make Java work. Everywhere." weblogs.java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/blog [email protected] - mobile: +39 348.150.6941 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
