On Aug 14, 2:20 pm, Reinier Zwitserloot <reini...@gmail.com> wrote: > The sheer amount of 'coin isn't making changes fast enough' sentiment > here and in the rest of the java community is -staggering-. But, apart > from that, if lombok gets some traction and adds a bunch of useful > features, but this one much touted feature that everyone wanted (let's > say, for argument's sake, closures) ends up blowing feet off left and > right, that'd be rather fruitful information for coin and any other > snoracle led java language improvement. Features which seemed only so- > so in coin and end up seeing a lot of use should similarly be very > useful information.
You're absolutely right. James Gosling speaks very fondly of prototyping language features and getting real feedback. You're the first person in the 'Project Coin era' to actually do it, which is very commendable. > What, exactly, was my mistake in regards to the relationship between > java and the JVM? You said "Java is one of the farthest removed languages from the bytecode." (7/26/09) and I disagreed (7/27/09). > I'm getting tired of your insults. In what way is 'central body that > picks known cases' laughable? Back up your statements, or stop > insulting me. You said there is "no central body that picks known cases with no issues and adds them to the language spec." I and others in the Java SE Core Technologies team are improving javac and the JLS week in, week out. http://bugs.sun.com is testament to the hundreds of issues (actual defects and speculative RFEs) that we work through every year. And what you can see in public is a fraction of the discussion Sun has internally and with business partners. Self-evidently, the known cases that individual developers in this group may have with the Java language are not considered super-crucial by the JCP SE/EE Executive Committee, or else JSRs would have been started to address them. Alex --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
