I was *shocked* by what you said in this interview, absolutely *shocked*. Yeah, you did. Particularly you, Joe seemed to leave more of it to you this time, he said his piece and was blasted for it on his blog. Every opportunity Dick gave you to redeem Sun in any way shape or form into taking any kind of leadership in Java you stomped on with open ended statements that didn't go anywhere or provide anything useful to any part of the community. I'm also not sure who you are trying to kid about the JSR/JCP process - I thought again that Dick was being very polite. "Sun" decides to change Java and it gets changed, a JSR forms out of it later (like Coin appeared to). Even before this interview, the consensus feeling is that Sun has had a lock-down don't change anything attitude for Java for some time. After the interview, which such vehement anti-innovation rhetoric from you and Joe, it is clear where this is coming from.
I cannot see how Oracle could expect to invest in such an attitude and I desperately hope they don't. I only hope it can be redeemed by JDK 8. Still shocked. On Sep 29, 7:18 pm, Alex Buckley <[email protected]> wrote: > On Sep 28, 7:39 pm, Richard Vowles <[email protected]> wrote: > > > This entire interview was a cop-out by Alex and Joe. Their argument > > boiled down to "look, Sun open sourced Java and now we don't have to > > do anything". > > In no way did Joe or I state or imply that Sun has "open sourced > Java". Sun has open sourced the JDK, its implementation of the Java SE > platform. The Java SE platform continues to be defined by the JCP. > Anyone who proposes changes to the Java language must ultimately > convince the JCP Executive Committee > -http://jcp.org/en/participation/committee > - of the importance and quality of their proposal. > > I'm pretty sure most listeners would not summarize our comments as > "now we don't have to do anything". > > Alex --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
