But are they giving away their hard work out of altruism or market 
necessity? Somehow the choice of proprietary features seems to indicate 
the latter.

But good on them -- even if I think that NetBeans and Eclipse had more 
impact in open sourcing IntelliJ IDEA than anyone at Jetbrains. I'd 
still put my bets on them being only a minor player in the IDE market in 
a few years time since all the strong features are still for-pay and an 
Eclipse/NetBeans combo works better for me than IDEA ever did.

  Peter


BoD wrote:
> I think you were being trollish but I'm going to reply anyway just in case :
> they're opening the source (remember : they're *giving away* their hard 
> work, so everybody  can use it), and the only reaction you have is to 
> insult them? Nice!
>
> BoD
>
> Alex Turner wrote:
>   
>> I hope you're being sarcastic.  Honestly this is a huge slap in the
>> face if you ask me.  We're going to give you this awesome IDE for
>> FREE!!!!  Oh - except none of the awesome features that you need to
>> actually get real work done are available, but that's okay - open
>> source developers don't need any of that advanced crap like Spring, or
>> JSF, or Tomcat support because they only develop rubbish anyway right?
>>
>> How insulting!  If they were hemorrhaging users to NetBeans and
>> Eclipse before, I hope the rest of the IntelliJ user base sees this
>> for what it is and stop forking over hard earned cash to this
>> organization.
>>
>> I ditched IntelliJ because they have no good AOP support, no good PHP
>> support, lousy vi plugin, stupid project management (I mean seriously
>> - who the hell only needs one project open at a time?), massive memory
>> leaks that render the IDE unusable after a few hours of intensive use,
>> problems with formatting code that isn't Java, poor hibernate query
>> checking.
>>
>> The gating factor for NetBeans was maven support, which they added
>> rather helpful in 6.7.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Mark Derricutt <[email protected]> wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> *yay* :)
>>>
>>> I think its time to dust off my IDEA plugin writing skills, I've not checked
>>> out any OpenAPI changes since early in the 8 series.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Pull me down under...
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Reinier Zwitserloot <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> Huh, wow. We really have no excuse to start working on IDEA and
>>>> netbens support! I'm stoked.
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>   
>>     
>
> >
>   


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