I have to agree here. I don't dislike JavaFX -- I wish it the best and would love to see it really become usable for the rest of us (e.g. for us enterprise app authors).
Still, it seems like rather than fight the good, hard fight to improve Java with its huge and hugely diverse community and often contrary interests, Sun has chosen to run off and start something new and unencumbered by all of this baggage. That's fine and good, but Sun's limited resources have made this far too much an either-or proposition. I'd love to see JavaFX *and* huge strides in (carefully but surely) evolving Java, e.g. getting Java 7 out in a timely fashion with closures, etc, all done right. Sun just does not have the resources for all of this, though. This all brings me back to the Sun-Oracle merger and the EU blockage thereof. We need Sun to have Oracle's resources to keep all Java and JavaFX progress from stalling (or to restart it in areas in which it has stalled) -- and we need this ASAP. Sure the EU may be helping SAP in part here, but overall I think they're helping Microsoft more than anyone and it's really a shame. Casper Bang wrote: > While Tor seems to hint at things to come, this is the water-tank > chatter I've picked up: > > 1) They needed something "sexy" a la Flex. > 2) There should be an eventual revenue model through tools. > 3) It should not be hampered by usual compatibility roadblocks. > > It feels like a game of catching up SUN could never win, considering > the competitors aren't exactly idling either. > I suppose I couldn't care less, except for 3 years now other things > have suffered (SwingLabs, SAF and even Java itself). > > /Casper > > On Nov 26, 3:30 pm, Jess Holle <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Chas Emerick wrote: >> >>> For my money, give me Swing2, fix the applet/deployment experience, >>> and fix the license/redistribution issues, and we'd be on that in a >>> second. >>> >> I concur that one of the most interesting spaces is that which would be >> logically occupied by a "Swing2". I'd be "okay" with this being JavaFX, >> but JavaFX has a lot of gaps in that direction. Chasing the "bauble" >> app direction seems just plain silly -- but, hey, I'm an enterprise app guy. >> >> -- >> Jess Holle >> > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
