People are no longer programming directly in JavaScript though, but
abstractions on top a la jQuery and GWT which shields the developer
from most of the ugliness. Google has proven time and again how they
perceive JavaScript as nothing less than a universal machine layer
opening the door for universal access (computers, phones, picture
frames etc.). I think Sun missed that opportunity when NetScape made
JavaScript the de-facto language over Java.

/Casper

On Nov 30, 1:04 pm, Simon Brocklehurst <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Nov 30, 1:27 am, Josh McDonald <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > 2) Stop with the applet. Seriously. The browser plugin war is over, Adobe
> > won. Years ago. And before Java 7 is ready and modularised, Google will have
> > gotten V8 and (Canvas||a replacement for Canvas) up to par. It's just more
> > important to them than Java 7 and FX are to Sun (which is not how it should
> > be IMO), they have more money, and they've built a nest of hackers where
> > even @dhanji isn't (always) the smartest guy in the room. The JVM is
> > *awesome*, but Tamarin is good enough for the browser.
>
> That's an interesting suggestion.  You might be right that this war is
> already lost.  Personally, I hope not - I think JavaScript is a poor
> choice of language for building sophisticated browser-based
> applications.  *If* it is lost, though, the consequences are serious,
> because it will restrict every non-browser RIA platform to a pretty
> small niche.  That's because close to 100% of people have already
> decided they want 80% of the computer systems they access via a
> desktop computer to run inside a browser,

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