Jesus, Tim. I just finished yelling at some other paranoid nutcase for blaming this on sun/oracle. Sit down, and listen.
Oracle hasn't bought sun YET. The SEC would get rather extremely concerned if oracle has already been telling sun to deep-six a bunch of FOSS competition, and has apparently done so a while ago, because stuff like this doesn't happen overnight. Also, considering that oracle can't get their hands on sun until the EU clears it, and if there's any hint of official communication by oracle to sun to kill off FOSS-based competition to oracle projects, well, think about it. THEY WOULD BE SUNK. The EU would sit there, smugly say: Ha! Told you so, veto to the deal, and make clear no amount of political pressure is going to change this answer. This, or even an investigation if that happened, would cost oracle hundreds of millions of dollars. Most assuredly more than whatever sales oracle would lose in the few months that it'll take for the oracle/sun deal to go through now, at which point they can axe whatever projects they want. So, no, oracle did not sabotage SOA, UML, and the visual web plugins. Duh. Secondly, these plugins did exist, and they are open source. If there is truly such financial benefit in these products, then why, exactly, aren't the businesses that rely on them putting in some funds and a programmer or two to maintain these plugins? All they'd have to do is maintain existing code. It's not as bad as having to start from scratch. A post on the netbeans forum (check other thread for link) clearly shows that if anybody else puts in the effort of maintaining these plugins, odds are they'll find a place in the master distributions, or at the very least, they'd get whatever help they needed from Team Netbeans. Team Netbeans has also been adding J2EE6 support to netbeans, which i'm sure competes with oracle stuff as well. The fact that you cannot see that this ISNT some sort of powerplay is mind boggling to me. On Dec 11, 2:59 pm, Tim Davenport <[email protected]> wrote: > Unfortunatly SOA, UML and Visual Web plugins are unfunded and will not > be released going forward, > The conspiracy theorist in me knows that the free SUN, SOA especially, > solution were as good or better than the Oracle offerings which cost > 100's of thousands of dollars to license in production. > The take over of SUN by Oracle has reduced the competition in the > market, not a good situation and I ask the question > Why would Oracle fund open source projects that compete with their pay > for products?? > > RIP Sun!! > RIP Netbeans! > > On Dec 3, 6:31 pm, Jan Goyvaerts <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > figures... not very active apparently. :-( A pity really because it's a > > great product. > > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 09:33, Jan Goyvaerts <[email protected]> wrote: > > > (please disregard my previous message... pressed by accident on the tab > > > key > > > again...) > > > > Hello Java people, > > > > Does anybody in here knows what the plans are for the uml plugin of > > > netbeans ? I'm trying to install it on netbeans 6.8 but that's not > > > working. > > > And I've got the impression it's not exactly active these days... > > > > I really hope it's going to be released for as long as Netbeans'll around. > > > > Jan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
